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Kamahl95
Joined: 08 Sep 2009
Posts: 39
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 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 1:35 am Post subject: Probably, the best Jund list ever. |
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I don't know if you guys usually visit dailymtg.com, but there was an amazing post by Mike Flores about new, innovative decks in Standard.
How do you feel about the first one?
4 Evolving Wilds
3 Forest
3 Mountain
4 Raging Ravine
4 Savage Lands
1 Scalding Tarn
3 Swamp
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Bloodbraid Elf
2 Borderland Ranger
4 Plated Geopede
4 Putrid Leech
4 Siege-Gang Commander
4 Sprouting Thrinax
2 Bituminous Blast
4 Blightning
2 Lightning Bolt
4 Maelstrom Pulse
Sideboard
1 Bituminous Blast
1 Burst Lightning
1 Chandra Nalaar
3 Consuming Vapors
2 Doom Blade
1 Island
2 Lightning Bolt
4 Sedraxis Specter
Original post: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/td/90 |
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SniperMayer
Joined: 31 Jan 2008
Posts: 290
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P_P4E
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
Posts: 579
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:22 am Post subject: |
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listening to mike flores is going to net you a LOT of losses. He's a good mind for magic, but only in certain circumstances.
I like the thought of leading with an evolving wilds or scalding tarn. This clearly isn't a format where turn 1 matters almost at all, but if you slowroll those plays out before dropping something...But wait... this is an aggro-jund list! Those properties don't mix and therefore don't make sense. You can't really make them think you're playing boros as the article suggests for long enough to make that trick worth it. Blightning costs 3 mana, apparently.
I like the red deck wins list, however. |
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Tao
Joined: 22 Dec 2007
Posts: 864
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:10 am Post subject: |
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The last good deck Mike Flores made was that UBR Control deck with Tolaria West, Detritivore, and Aeon Chronicler. And that deck kinda made itself =\ Now he just makes sub-optimal decklists with too much expensive crap and Civic Wayfinders.
I really don't see why people still pay money to hear him rant about his deck creations. They haven't been good in a long time. |
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Kamahl95
Joined: 08 Sep 2009
Posts: 39
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:20 am Post subject: response to jonproject |
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| this isn't a mike flores creation, its a deck that actually won a PTQ full of Jund and UW Control |
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Mykrob56
Level 1 Judge
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
Posts: 37
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| decks no good in the mirror, Ruinblasters are definitely needed... |
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floodstorm64
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Posts: 92
Location: Texas
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| However, specters are spectacular in the mirror. |
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Lynolf
Joined: 25 Aug 2007
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| floodstorm64 wrote: | | However, specters are spectacular in the mirror. |
Of course, because he has access to blue, black and red mana!
Oh wait...  |
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Edowardo
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 55
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Lynolf wrote: | | floodstorm64 wrote: | | However, specters are spectacular in the mirror. |
Of course, because he has access to blue, black and red mana!
Oh wait... |
I think your saying he doesn't but he does, relook at the sb. |
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gypsy
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
Posts: 1671
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| mike flores hasnt made a good deck in 5-6 years or so |
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CloaknDagger
Joined: 13 Jul 2009
Posts: 30
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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God you guys are fucking idiots.
There's a reason you're sitting here bitching and Mike Flores is a respected long-time deckbuilder and theorist.
No relevant decks within the last 5-6 years?
Naya Lightsaber
Spells (11)
* 4 Lightning Bolt
* 4 Path to Exile
* 3 Ajani Vengeant
Creatures (25)
* 4 Noble Hierarch
* 1 Scute Mob
* 4 Wild Nacatl
* 4 Woolly Thoctar
* 4 Ranger of Eos
* 4 Bloodbraid Elf
* 4 Baneslayer Angel
Lands (24)
* 4 Arid Mesa
* 4 Forest
* 3 Mountain
* 1 Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
* 4 Plains
* 4 Rootbound Crag
* 4 Sunpetal Grove
Sideboard (15)
* 1 Ajani Vengeant
* 2 Burst Lightning
* 4 Celestial Purge
* 4 Goblin Ruinblaster
* 4 Great Sable Stag
This deck won the entire 2009 Worlds Standard portion.
If you guys disagree with Mike's comments, fine. But the guy has a history and a track record longer than any of you could ever dare to hope to think to ever dream. So shut the fuck up and start posting results if you're going to be snobs.
As for me, I'm going to learn what I can from a master.
Idiots. |
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gypsy
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
Posts: 1671
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| naya lightsaber went 4-2 at worlds and got lucky in top 8, not that good didnt really impact the metagame at all |
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CloaknDagger
Joined: 13 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:27 am Post subject: |
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Yet somehow everything he says is still infinitely more important than anything you say.
What have you accomplished in magic?
Oh...that's right  |
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gypsy
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
Posts: 1671
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| Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:29 am Post subject: |
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| im sorry im not a 40 year old guy whos spent half his life playing magic and my best accomplishment is barning jon finkel |
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CloaknDagger
Joined: 13 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:33 am Post subject: |
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You're right. Your biggest accomplishment is trolling forums and spamming the F5 key to board warrior instead of actually winning.
My bad. |
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