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Sigil Captain and Star/Star Creatures

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Joined: 09 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 10:45 am    Post subject: Re: Sigil Captain and Star/Star Creatures Reply with quote

crystalvala wrote: they automatically enter with (x+1)/(x+1) right when the spell is cast, where x is the number of green permanents/elves he controls before he casts the spell?

I'm not quite following this bit but, to answer your main question, no, they do not come into play as 1/1s. I believe */* creatures have ever changing stats, even while in your library. For a comparison to creatures that change toughness once they hit the field, see Clone. But claiming that */* = 1/1 is ridiculous, since it says that nowhere on the card. I have to go to work now, so I can't look up the specific rules, but they definitely aren't somehow defaulting to 1/1, that's for sure. Basically, */* = */*, not 1/1.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*/* is a characterstic defining ability of the card.
It functions in all zones and enters the battlefield with a value of * for in this case, the number of elves/green permanents on the battlefield. Sigil captain will only trigger for jagged scar archers if it is the only elf he controls, since it will be a 1/1. Drove of elves will never trigger sigil captain since it will be at least a 2/2 assuming sigil captain is in play when it enters the battlefield.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if he niveous wisps (or another colorchanging ability) his green creatures then drove will be a 1/1 and would trigger. let's be precise now!

CDAs are defined in all zones (goyf is always full goyf size, etc)
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the */* being defined in all zones actually allows for some pretty interesting interactions.

say you control a wild pair and 4 artifacts, then you cast a baloth woodcrasher. now you search your deck, and you want to go and look for master of etherium. this is legal, because his power and toughness are both equal to the number of artifacts you control: 4. 4 power + 4 toughness = 8 total, fulfilling wild pair's requirements.
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