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by Terminus-Est on 2011-05-24 22:28 CET
How many engines could a wurm coil if a wurmcoil could coil engines?
by AppleofEris on 2011-05-24 22:44 CET
lol Big Black. I like it.
by GreenBear on 2011-05-24 22:50 CET
Im guessing the big black got mana screwed thats not enough lands for its curve.
by xBlueDemonx on 2011-05-24 22:54 CET
Blue Demon and Nuevo León Mexico are here !
by jonwayne on 2011-05-24 22:55 CET
big black = epic name
by AppleofEris on 2011-05-24 22:56 CET
Manfred: What do you mean that's not enough lands? You must get mana flooded a lot...I really hope you don't blame that on MWS.
by GreenBear on 2011-05-25 00:05 CET
24 is far to few for a deck with that many 4 drops. I can do mana curves clearly unlike someone.
by AppleofEris on 2011-05-25 00:43 CET
I really hope I get you round one of EVERY tournament. Like a bye, but way easier to win.
by tchiseen on 2011-05-25 00:51 CET
Blame the MWS shuffler
by MassO on 2011-05-25 01:25 CET
24 is just right, may be too heavy...I like playing 23 mana, when it comes to decks that top out at 4 mana.....and yea I know that wurmcoil is 6 but that is only 2. I just wish this deck provided more drawing....could tezzeret's gambit fit in this deck?
by AppleofEris on 2011-05-25 01:41 CET
I think it could, but only playtesting would know for sure. Seems like a solid replacement for Rager, but then you lose the 2/2 man, which may or may not add to the offense of this deck.
by tecktonicboy on 2011-05-25 02:59 CET
Te robastesss mis lista =(
by P_P4E on 2011-05-25 04:33 CET
24 is NOWHERE NEAR close. 26 minimum.
by AppleofEris on 2011-05-25 05:02 CET
How is it any of you ever win any games? 26 lands in a constructed deck is just...weird.
by Nix87 on 2011-05-25 08:54 CET
Ever heard of Caw-Blade? They play at least 26 if not 27 lands... Same is true for RUG and UB Control in t2. I agree with anyone who says that 24 lands in the 2nd place deck is at least 1 land short.
by Mitchmachine on 2011-05-25 11:29 CET
60/24 = 2,5
by MassO on 2011-05-25 11:52 CET
yes, 24 lands and higher is for control decks, not aggro, this is a midrange deck that should top out at 22/23 not 24, 26 is allin control aka Cawblade, and the other deck that runs 26 is Valakut/Emeria which are land combo decks that rely on having certain lands in play. Mitch that is not how you create a Mana curve.. You have to look at the cc's of cards to be able to compute. So if one land gives me 2 mana of one color I should still have 25 swamps?? I don't think so. I will stick with 23 maybe 24 if you want to go overboard but 25 or higher, you will be land flooded and I will win. So, good luck.
by AppleofEris on 2011-05-25 11:56 CET
Like I said, 24 lands is the appropriate amount for this deck, but if you really want that extra tenth odds for drawing a land, run 25. Anything over is just stupid.
by sb305198 on 2011-05-25 12:00 CET
I would actually tend to agree that it's about 1 land short on the "big black" list. I like the idea of the inkmoth's as well. Lashwrithe was pretty good all day, but it does make a pretty big target for all of "Big Red's" artifact destruction, as does Masticore. I think adding 1/2 lands and maybe 2 Karn does a lot for the deck. I wouldn't remove Rager--he's a smooth pimp. Act of Aggression was a great card all day. Marrow Shards was a worthless experiment, but probably would've been fine vs poison, had i seen it even once.
by AppleofEris on 2011-05-25 12:02 CET
Mass0: I would argue that 22/23 lands are too few. The most important thing is to get out at least 2/3 mana so you can have up Grasp of Darkness, Go For the Throat, and Dismember, but all your best threats are 4 cmc and nothing spells control like dropping an Obliterator on turn 4 (turn 3 if you played Sphere of the Suns or Black-Mana Myr turn 2).
by MassO on 2011-05-25 12:02 CET
just another tidbit: look at the winning deck that play 24 lands. It has 1/6th of the deck over 5cc, which is why it needs the 24 lands. 18 cards are 4cc or higher, that is 3/10ths of the deck that needs atleast 4 lands to operate.
by MassO on 2011-05-25 12:06 CET
-1 rager, -1skinrender, -1 dismember -1 grasp, +4 leaden myr (blackmana myr) or the suns...but I like the myr, gives you something to attach the lashwrithes to.
by AppleofEris on 2011-05-25 12:06 CET
can't get rid of the dismember or grasp, but could get rid of ragers and skinrender (skinrender to sb) due to the meta not liking sorcery speed removal.
by MassO on 2011-05-25 12:30 CET
then maybe move Skinrender sb and -1 rager, adde 4 leaden myr
by gluedman on 2011-05-25 17:37 CET
totally agree with Mass, leaden myr is great in that deck
by AppleofEris on 2011-05-25 17:42 CET
yeah, it seems good and fits the curve nicely. The only drawback I can see with that card would be 1.) Giving artifact hate another target besides Lashwrithe and 2.) Not being a good card to topdeck late in the game BUT if you run 4 myrs, maybe you could trim the lands back to 22-23. I don't think I would, but seems like a possibility.
by JeZeus on 2011-05-25 18:52 CET
If magic-league was a bridge, how many trolls could fit under it?
by AppleofEris on 2011-05-25 19:07 CET
If magic-league was a bridge, it would get sued by Bridgers of the Coast, LLC.
by MassO on 2011-05-25 20:15 CET
Would you rather, lose a leaden myr or a lashwrithe? Obv. Leaden myr so having a leaden myr in play turn 2 to get a obliterator turn 3 is worth it because if they do get rid of the myr turn 3, you play lashwrithe turn 4, for 4/4 and a 5/5 in play.
by HotSoup on 2011-05-25 20:33 CET
Some of you are the jokes. The deck should run 24 or more. Anyone who says less is a fool. Anyone who says RDW should run less than 24 is a fool when Koth is one of your best cards.
by MassO on 2011-05-25 22:08 CET
no one said RDW should run less than 24, we are talking about BDW. We did however justify why RDW needs 24 land with 18 cards over 4cc's....However, BDW only has 14 cards with cc of 4 or more, and only 2 over 4.
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