by Verystrait42 on 2010-08-06 04:57 CET

Old format is old.

by gypsy on 2010-08-06 06:59 CET

wow such bad tezz lists

by Stork on 2010-08-06 07:29 CET

Awesome format, must be fun.

by Jingles on 2010-08-11 00:39 CET

The format is great! Has has some ups and downs as far as excitement, and seeing only tezz+dredge is top 4 is a snore.. but what can u do.. my sb was terrible except for a couple will timed Ravenous traps. Needed leyline instead of other crap in there. but it was a work in progress for a specific meta that i did not re tune for this event. kinda hard to get a ML vintage meta with so few events.

but thanks for the event!! oh btw when is the master?

by on 2010-08-16 07:07 CET

Sorry but I have a noob question: How do you actually get a mana producing land into play? Or Petrified Field for that matter? Once the engine starts, it seems that you never actually draw any cards. So are you just hoping to get a mana producer in your opening hand or counting on it being one of your early draws before Dredge hits the graveyard?

by doc_morriar on 2010-08-20 00:24 CET

by Lewmizzle on 2010-08-16 03:07 EDT

Sorry but I have a noob question: How do you actually get a mana producing land into play? Or Petrified Field for that matter? Once the engine starts, it seems that you never actually draw any cards. So are you just hoping to get a mana producer in your opening hand or counting on it being one of your early draws before Dredge hits the graveyard?


The point of dredge is to get as many cards into your grave from your library as possible. (you obviously know this)
from the library narcomeaba comes into play. you also have cards such as
.bloodghast
.ichorid
.dryad arbor etc.

with these cards you want to play either cabal therapy or if you have enough creatures - or enough cabal therapies to trigger bridge from below to create zombies - you want to play dread return.
obviously dread return wants to target something that wins you the game or locks the game down.
iona does this nicely.
also there is flame kin zealot to bring into play (remember that your getting a zombie or two for each creature you sacrificing depending on how many bridges are in grave) flame kin zealot will give all your zombies haste ftw

by Benobi on 2010-09-12 01:33 CET

I'm familiar with Legacy dredge, but why does Vintage dredge use Fatestitcher?

by kikooo on 2010-09-13 12:58 CET

@Jingles: The mana lands are basically for games 2 and 3. In game 1 you won't need to spend any mana (unless you play Fatestitcher or draw spells), but in sideboarded games you'll need mana to cast your anti-hate cards, like Nature's Claim. In post-sb games Bazaar draws you two extra cards each turn, making it easy to find either the land or the anti-hate card you need to deal with Leyline/Jailor. Petrified field basically acts as Bazaar 5-7 against Wasteland/Strip Mine and it helps triggering landfall for Bloodghasts multiple times.

@Benobi: You unearth Fatestitcher and use its ability on Bazaar so you can keep dredging. It also helps with getting to 3 creatures for Dread Return and it sacs to Cabal Therapy. Most people have cut Fatestitcher from their lists since it's kind of a "win more" card.