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Going infinite in this new standard post EVE.



 
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ManaLeak



Joined: 08 Nov 2005
Posts: 185

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Going infinite in this new standard post EVE. Reply with quote

alright i have a couple variants of how to go infinite

Mainly my first variant is


Bloom tender + umbral mantle + 5 color creature

another variant would be

Bloom tender + seedcradle witch + manaforge cinder - 4 colors

Intresting synergy with scarecrows

ScareCrone allows complete draw
Scuttlemutt allows a quick 5 colors since you can pick more than one with it's ability.


some ways to get this to work.

here's a rough list i made and i am no super deckbuilder so it is beyond perfect.

Decklist using elves... very slow and has a 5th turn win.(block)

// Lands
8 [SHM] Forest (1)
4 [SHM] Swamp (1)
4 [EVE] Twilight Mire
4 [SHM] Wooded Bastion
4 [LRW] Gilt-Leaf Palace

// Creatures
4 [EVE] Nettle Sentinel
4 [EVE] Bloom Tender
3 [SHM] Scuttlemutt
3 [SHM] Reaper King
4 [MOR] Heritage Druid
4 [SHM] Rhys the Redeemed
4 [EVE] Scarecrone

// Spells
3 [LRW] Gilt-Leaf Ambush
3 [SHM] Umbral Mantle
3 [LRW] Elvish Promenade
1 [EVE] Helix Pinnacle



Non Elf version dedicated combo slightly faster but not consistent 4th turn win (block)


// Lands
4 [SHM] Mountain (2)
12 [SHM] Forest (1)
4 [EVE] Flooded Grove

// Creatures
4 [SHM] Scuttlemutt
4 [EVE] Scarecrone
4 [EVE] Bloom Tender

// Spells
4 [LRW] Fertile Ground
4 [SHM] Umbral Mantle
4 [EVE] Helix Pinnacle
4 [SHM] Fossil Find
4 [SHM] Manamorphose
4 [SHM] Cerulean Wisps
4 [SHM] Crimson Wisps

// Sideboard
SB: 3 [LRW] Primal Command
SB: 4 [SHM] Guttural Response
SB: 4 [MOR] Titan's Revenge
SB: 4 [SHM] Firespout



Edition With Rite of Flames
Possible 0 turn win. (T2 - wha!?)


// Lands
4 [10E] Karpulsan Forest
8 [SHM] Forest (1)
4 [TSB] Gemstone mine
4 [10E] Yavimaya Coast

// Creatures
4 [SHM] Scuttlemutt
4 [EVE] Scarecrone
4 [EVE] Bloom Tender

// Spells
4 [CS] Rite of flame
4 [SHM] Umbral Mantle
1 [EVE] Helix Pinnacle
3 [10E] Birds of paradise
4 [SHM] Fossil Find
4 [SHM] Manamorphose
4 [SHM] Cerulean Wisps
4 [SHM] Crimson Wisps

// Sideboard
SB: 3 [LRW] Primal Command
SB: 4 [SHM] Guttural Response
SB: 4 [MOR] Titan's Revenge
SB: 4 [SHM] Firespout


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onecleanceli



Joined: 27 Mar 2005
Posts: 398

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as soon as i saw Helix Pinnacle in the spoiler i wanted to try to find a way to use it, and you pretty much just gave the idea lol... i've always been an avid 'fun' combo player (hate storm) so i may actually give this a shot
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jdf121



Joined: 21 May 2005
Posts: 195

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are u serious?? Helix Pinnacle sucks. Its a novel idea and cool for casual or games where you are playing an idiot, but there are better things to do and ways to win with 101 mana...
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Ggerg



Joined: 04 Sep 2005
Posts: 632

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

honestly, helix pinacle doesn't seem like a bad card for the control mirror. but ya, that's it really
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Shagrath



Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 241

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:09 am    Post subject: ..... Reply with quote

3 Card combo.....
hooray for timmy!
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 2325

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the casual section, though. The point isn't to make a competitive deck out of this combo, then... it is to make it work despite its suckyness.

But I don't play combo, so don't ask me how.
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theMamba



Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Posts: 28

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how is scarecrone infinate draw.?since you have to tap it to return an artifact.
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onecleanceli



Joined: 27 Mar 2005
Posts: 398

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

once you reach infinite mana (mantle is on board obv.) you equip mantle to crone to bring back any other artifact, then sac it to draw, then untap crone via mantle, rinse and repeat

i know its casual but i've always loved combo decks and with a possibility for infinite mana, im damn sure going to try to make it work for competition.... maybe i'll fail, maybe i wont, just dont hate me when i beat you with a Helix Pinnacle on turn 5-6 lol
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theMamba



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Posts: 28

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you have 1 other artifact. and scarecrone has to be in play for a turn
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onecleanceli



Joined: 27 Mar 2005
Posts: 398

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a) crimson wisps gives haste (if it happens to happen that way)
b) noone ever said you had to go off the turn scarecrone comes into play

tender, mutt, crone + mantle all on board, with crone able to tap = infinite mana.... tap mutt to make tender 5c, tap tender for 5 mana, equip mantle, use 3 to untap, rinse and repeat... infinite mana.... equip mantel to crone, sac mutt + tap crone to bring back, rinse and repeat, draw ur deck, play spell with X=win, good game
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