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Batibot23



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:52 am    Post subject: About Discarding. Reply with quote

For example, I only have one card in hand and it's now my Main Phase. I am about to cast Wall of Roots, can my enemy sort of counter it with Extirpate by targetting a WoR in my graveyard? It's my Main Phase and I have the priority to cast. I already casted WoR and he said in resp he uses Extirpate on my WoR on my graveyard. Is the spell I played and still on the stack considered to be on my hand?

Another situation, what if you have a card that makes a player discard and can be played at instant speed, and your opponent has no cards in his hand. He draws during his draw step and it's now his Main Phase, can you force him to discard that one card in his hand before he had the chance to play it?

Another question. After you draw during your Draw Step, it's already the Main Phase right?
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Lynolf



Joined: 25 Aug 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:20 am    Post subject: Re: About Discarding. Reply with quote

Those are a lot of questions. Let's see...

1º When you play a card, it goes to the stack, so it stops being in your hand, so Extirpate will not affect in anyway your played Wall of Roots.

2º During your Draw Step, you start by drawing a card, then players may play spells and abilities before moving to the Main Phase.
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Batibot23



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want to clarify what the MWSPlay says.
DRAW STEP: DRAW goes on the stack.
Then, player may play spells and abilities. Shouldn't drawing be the last thing to do since it went first to stack?

Let's go to another situation before my enemy could do anything (play spells, abilities or morph) during my Main Phase, I have the priority to cast before him right?
Another question:
I attack with my Troll Ascetic, before the damage was stacked, my opponent plays Sulfurous Blast and In Resp, I regen my Troll. Would it still deal combat damage?
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cloysterd



Joined: 24 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Batibot23 wrote:
I just want to clarify what the MWSPlay says.
DRAW STEP: DRAW goes on the stack.
Then, player may play spells and abilities. Shouldn't drawing be the last thing to do since it went first to stack?

Let's go to another situation before my enemy could do anything (play spells, abilities or morph) during my Main Phase, I have the priority to cast before him right?
Another question:
I attack with my Troll Ascetic, before the damage was stacked, my opponent plays Sulfurous Blast and In Resp, I regen my Troll. Would it still deal combat damage?


304. Draw Step
304.1. First, the active player draws a card. This game action doesn't use the stack. Then any abilities that trigger at the beginning of the draw step and any other abilities that have triggered go on the stack. Then the active player gets priority and players may play spells and abilities.


Yes, you have first priority in your own Main Phase. The active player always gets priority first.

No, the Troll would not deal combat damage, because when a creature is regenerated it is removed from combat.
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Lynolf



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

304.1. First, the active player draws a card. This game action doesn’t use the stack. Then any abilities that trigger at the beginning of the draw step and any other abilities that have triggered go on the stack. Then the active player gets priority and players may play spells and abilities.

2º: Yes you have priority before him during your main phase, meaning your opponent can't do a thing until you pass priority to him.

3º: No it doesn't. When a creature is regenerated, it becomes tapped and is removed from combat. Since combat damage hasn't been assigned yet, it won't deal damage.

Hope that was clear enough Very Happy
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Thorns



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's something: Your opponent can't react during your turn before you do something or pass priority. That means that, after the draw step, at the very beginning of your main phase and before you play anything, your opponent can't do anything. In sum, your opponent can't even cast Funeral Charm (set to discard) before you decide to play the card you have in your hand or activate an ability.
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Batibot23



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies. So, draw wasn't supposed to be put on stack during Draw Step.
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Hardtrack



Joined: 10 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thorns wrote:
Here's something: Your opponent can't react during your turn before you do something or pass priority. That means that, after the draw step, at the very beginning of your main phase and before you play anything, your opponent can't do anything. In sum, your opponent can't even cast Funeral Charm (set to discard) before you decide to play the card you have in your hand or activate an ability.

You are right if he plays it in the Main Phase. There is nothing stopping him from playing it in the Draw Step after you drew the card of course.
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Vedrfolner



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once he announce that he is going into the main phase from draw phase, you can play funeral charm.
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