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Jacois
Joined: 05 Sep 2004
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 Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:42 am Post subject: What is "Q"? |
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What is Q? I have a guess, but rather than just tell you what I think, how about we play a game. Well, it's more like a challenge I guess.
"What is the most simplistic way to template a 'Prodigal Sorcerer' that can be activated twice, any time, from untap step to untap step?"
Be aware, that the challenge is to make the text box as simple and seamless as possible, and the creature must be able to deal its 1 damage anytime from untap to untap. ie, deal 1 damage during your upkeep, and 1 damage during your opponents Attack Step, or 1 damage twice in a row.
How would you do it? |
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Welran
Joined: 08 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:11 am Post subject: |
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At the begining of your upkeep put a charge counter on ~this~.
Remove all charge counters from ~this~: ~this~ deals 1 damage to target creature or player.
Tap: ~this~ deals 1 damage to target creature or player. |
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Kev
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:30 am Post subject: |
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| Welran wrote: | At the begining of your upkeep put a charge counter on ~this~.
Remove all charge counters from ~this~: ~this~ deals 1 damage to target creature or player.
Tap: ~this~ deals 1 damage to target creature or player. |
WOW this can deal 3 damage the turn after it comes into play o_0 |
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Welran
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| Kev wrote: |
WOW this can deal 3 damage the turn after it comes into play o_0 |
O_o 2 turns after it comes into play
If ~this~ have no charge counters at the begining of your upkeep put a charge counter on ~this~.
Remove all charge counters from ~this~: ~this~ deals 1 damage to target creature or player.
Tap: ~this~ deals 1 damage to target creature or player. |
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Jacois
Joined: 05 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| Welran wrote: | | Kev wrote: |
WOW this can deal 3 damage the turn after it comes into play o_0 |
O_o 2 turns after it comes into play
If ~this~ have no charge counters at the begining of your upkeep put a charge counter on ~this~.
Remove all charge counters from ~this~: ~this~ deals 1 damage to target creature or player.
Tap: ~this~ deals 1 damage to target creature or player. |
Actually, there's no restriction on the 2nd ability, it doesn't say "IF" a counter was removed. Therefore, it can deal infinite damage the turn it comes into play.
Please note, the creature shouldn't ever be able to do MORE than 2 damage from any one untap to the next. |
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Mke410
Joined: 22 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:07 am Post subject: |
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Whenever -this- becomes tapped you may have it deal 1 damage to target creature or player.
T: -this- deals 1 damage to target creature or player. |
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Jacois
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:29 am Post subject: |
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| Mke410 wrote: | Whenever -this- becomes tapped you may have it deal 1 damage to target creature or player.
T: -this- deals 1 damage to target creature or player. |
Interesting idea, but your version couldn't deal 1 on your turn, as well as one on your opponents turn. |
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Morpheus2222
Joined: 04 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:40 am Post subject: |
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When -this- comes into play or leaves play you may have it deal one damage to target creature or player.
Tap: - this- deals one damage to target creature or player |
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Mke410
Joined: 22 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:58 am Post subject: |
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Ok how about this one then.
Whenever -this- becomes untapped you may have it deal 1 damage to target creature or player.
T: -this- deals 1 damage to target creature or player. |
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Jacois
Joined: 05 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:03 am Post subject: Re: What is "Q"? |
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| Jacois wrote: |
Be aware, that the challenge is to make the text box as simple and seamless as possible, and the creature must be able to deal its 1 damage anytime from untap to untap. ie, deal 1 damage during your upkeep, and 1 damage during your opponents Attack Step, or 1 damage twice in a row.
How would you do it? |
I'll add on, I thought I was clear. Or 1 damage at your end step, and 1 damage during your opponents upkeep, or once during your opponents draw step and once during your opponents end step.....
The point is, paraphrase the template for a creature that can do 1 damage just like a prodigal Sorceror, but that can do it TWICE. Both the first point, and the 2nd point can be done ANY time, EVERY turn, and all on 1 card.
What is the most simple, cleanest templating? |
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Mke410
Joined: 22 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Ok now that you clarified.
T: -this- deals 1 damage to target creature or player. If this is the first time this ability was played this turn untap -this-. |
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Morpheus2222
Joined: 04 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| would the creature need haste? |
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Jacois
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| Mke410 wrote: | Ok now that you clarified.
T: -this- deals 1 damage to target creature or player. If this is the first time this ability was played this turn untap -this-. |
This allows 1 damage on your turn, and 2 on your opponents. Only 2 damage total. |
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Jacois
Joined: 05 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| Morpheus2222 wrote: | | would the creature need haste? |
It wouldn't "need" haste, the point would be to make a creature that can do it every turn, indefinately, on its own. Whether it has haste or not would be irrelevant. |
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coboney
Joined: 07 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:33 am Post subject: |
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| T: ~ deals 1 damage to target creature or player. If this is the first time you played this ability since the beginning of your last upkeep untap ~. |
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