slivers 5 colors

Daevied · Joined: 07 Apr 2007 Posts: 1

hi i just was thinking about the old 5 colors slivers decks that my friend used to have. he gave me something like this.

// Lands
2 [TSP] Mountain (1)
2 [TSP] Island (1)
2 [TSP] Forest (1)
2 [TSP] Swamp (1)
2 [TSP] Plains (1)
3 [RAV] Temple Garden
3 [RAV] Watery Grave
3 [GP] Stomping Ground

// Creatures
3 [LE] Hunter Sliver
2 [TSB] Essence Sliver
3 [LE] Crypt Sliver
2 [SC] Sliver Overlord
3 [TE] Winged Sliver
3 [TSP] Gemhide Sliver
3 [PLC] Sinew Sliver
4 [TE] Muscle Sliver
2 [LE] Toxin Sliver

// Spells
2 [CHK] Kodama's Reach
2 [DIS] Pure/Simple
2 [DIS] Rise/Fall
3 [DIS] Supply/Demand
2 [BOK] Terashi's Grasp
1 [GP] Gruul Signet
2 [RAV] Selesnya Signet
2 [RAV] Dimir Signet

dunno if there something to do about this deck to make it better

thedarkness · Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 457

Sure. Drop the muscle slivers and the winged slivers and BOOM! You have a shitty extended deck. Honestly.

Malhavoc · Joined: 21 Sep 2004 Posts: 158 Location: Italy

AT LEAST build a decent manabase.. you can run fetchlands and double lands from alpha sets.. use them! And if you really want to run 5 colors, use some rainbow lands too (aether vial would be nice too).

Don't expect to come out with a very nice deck, anyway.

Cause · Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 8

booooooooooooooooooooo
3 color slivers is waaaaaaay better

Jezam · Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 9

What about the new Sliver Legion card? Seems kinda crazy if you get that out imo Smile

Cause · Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 8

if it isnt counter sliver... its garbage

Curby · Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 5

The quality of a deck can be measured in part by the number of uniquely named cards it runs. Obviously there are exceptions (restricted cards in Vintage, wishboards, etc.), but cards are generally separated into three categories: cards that are really good in your deck, cards that are suboptimal but can still be considered due to lack of stellar options, and cards you just don't want to see.

If you're lucky enough, you can build a deck with the best of the best. In that case, you're running 4 of most cards because you want to see as many of each card as possible, as consistently as possible. With all the slivers in print with stacking abilities, there's really no reason to run so many 2-ofs and 3-ofs. Just use the most efficient slivers.

This can be extended to the idea of running a 5-color deck: you're trading consistency for flexibility. Splashing gives you great cards like Duress, StP, etc. But what if you can't cast them due to mana problems? This is especially relevant when using mostly basic lands.

As others have suggested, take a look at other successful sliver decks (most notably countersliver in recent times) and see what they use. Drop down to 2 colors if using mostly basics, or 3 colors with a ton of duals and fetches. Use the common Terramorphic Expanse for further cheap-to-get mana smoothing.

At the same time, consider your sliver choices. 8 Muscles is great if running White and Green. Variants running Red/Black should consider Sedge Sliver as Muscles 5-8 or 9-12 (yes, they stack too). If splashing blue, especially in the hate-filled Legacy meta, Crystalline is an autoinclude. Concentrate on smaller slivers (1-2 cost) and minimize the number of colored mana symbols in the costs when possible, especially as the number of colors goes up.

While the Sliver Legends are great, they fall into the problem of "Dangers of Cool Things." They are simply too hard to cast, and useless in the opening hand. On the other hand, they're awfully fun in casual games.

Rather than using the Legends, and to keep a measure of casual fun to the deck, consider cards like Virulent Sliver and Screeching Sliver for alternate win conditions.

SliversOwn · Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 8

I too have a 5-color sliver deck, however, mine has lairs, which yours needs as well

combo lairs with gemstone mine and you're good to go.