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Crucible + Cavern



 
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Thorns



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:17 am    Post subject: Crucible + Cavern Reply with quote

If I have a Crucible of Worlds in play and a Zoetic Cavern in my graveyard, can I morph the Cavern?
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CrippleFight



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was wrong.

*edited because my local judge and I need to read up apparently*


Last edited by CrippleFight on Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:40 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Thorns



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome, thanks.
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Meatwarz



Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morph also states: "Any effects or prohibitions that would apply to playing a card with these characteristics (and not the face-up card's characteristics) are applied to playing this card."

Which means that Crucible doesn't allow playing 2/2 face-down creatures from GY -> you can't play cavern from Gy with crucible in play.
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Hardtrack



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, you can't play it face-down with the Crucible.

The first thing you do is turn it face-down, then check to see if you could play it like that. Since it wouldn't be a land face-down you can't play it.

This rule is the exact reason you can play a Zoetic Cavern face-down as an instant with Teferi out.
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Ironicus



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CrippleFight you should check if your ruling is true before saying it in a furum. You CAN'T play it as a morph.
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Thorns



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh well, that's too bad, would of been a nice interaction.
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Kev



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny, i wanted to asnwer this question but wasnt 100% sure, so i asked it on a different forum, some L2 and L3 judges there told me you cant play it because at the time you play it, it is a creature. And Crucible doesnt let you play creatures from the graveyard.
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CrippleFight



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ironicus wrote:
CrippleFight you should check if your ruling is true before saying it in a furum. You CAN'T play it as a morph.


sorry about that. I actually did ask the level 3 judge at the pt here in sd that question and what I originally posted was his answer...
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