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kendiggy



Joined: 30 Nov 2004
Posts: 366
Location: not here

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:50 am    Post subject: Not your usual M-L forum content... Reply with quote

Guys, I've got a dilemma.

I don't know what to do. None of my friends seem to have any worthwhile advice or don't understand how big of a deal this is.

I'm about to meet my father for the first time ever. He didn't know I even existed until two days ago.

I'm 24 years old, I'll be 25 next month. I was adopted when I was four years old. I was with those parents since I was 2 and a half. Now, I'm not gonna go into alot of detail about those people except to say that I don't live with them anymore and I haven't talked to them in three years. Apparently, they all hate me and the feeling is mutual. I've got physical and mental scars from them that will never go away. (I can't feel the right half of my head)

Now, the only person whom I still talk to from my adoptive family is my sister whom is forty something years old. She went through worse shit than me with those people. She recognized the symptoms of PTSD (post traumatic stress syndrome) in me and decided to help. She referred me to several mental health clinics and friends that she knew. Well, I didn't go.

See, part of the drawback to PTSD is that you don't "Take care of business" so to say. In other words, you don't act on decisions that can affect your future life. Basically, you keep digging yourself a hole and you never get out of it unless you get some sort of professional help.

Now, like I said, she went through all this before I did and she knew how hard it is to commit yourself to something like that under those conditions, and, even after me not calling her for like four months, she never gave up on me. She kept looking for ways to get me to go to counseling. In the mean time, she was always suggesting that I look for my real parents. Once again, I never did. Part of the reasoning for that is my low self esteem, I was afraid of what they would think of me, especially with all the financial problems I built up for myself.

But she went ahead and found them for me anyway. At least, she found my father.

Well, he called me today. He's a retired police officer and does private investigating now. He's married for 22 years and has two daughters. When he first heard about me, he thought it was some sort of prank by maybe some crackhead he locked up years ago trying to get his revenge. So he sent one of his friends to watch my house for a couple days (my sister gave him my phone number and the street I lived on, not the house address). When he found out the situation was genuine, he thought back about it and eliminated it down to one woman whom my mother could be and it wasn't his wife. Well, apparently he's pretty pissed off about the fact that she never told him.

But, he seems to be trying to be pretty open-minded and straight forward about the whole situation. He invited me out for lunch today. I took him up on the invite.

Now, here's my problem.

I don't know what to say to this guy. I've never had a dad before. Like, I did, but he wasn't a dad. I didn't know what a dad really was until six months ago when my daughter was born. Obviously I shouldn't be calling him dad, at least, not for a while. But, like I had said earlier, I don't want him to know about the holes that I've dug myself. I really want to get out of them. And, I could use some help. He told me "I'm a family man, and I don't like to leave members of my family out in the rain". But I don't feel right asking him for help, or even accepting it if he offers first. I'm not even gonna bring it up if I don't have to, but unfortunately it's still in the back of my mind.

I understand, first things first. I gotta get to know the guy. That's obvious. But, he's gonna want to know what I've been doing with myself and what my plans are for the future, etc. I can't lie to the guy. And even if did lie, he's a retired cop and a private investigator, he'll smell the lie and look into it, and then I'm in a bigger hole.

Now, I know it sounds like that's my biggest concern, whether or not to take money off this guy. First of all, I'm %100 aware that it wouldn't be right of me to do it. Second, it's not my biggest concern.

My biggest concern is what this guy is gonna think of me. I really don't wanna disappoint him. I'm so afraid that he's gonna see me and all the shit I've got myself in and he's just gonna reject me, or something. I don't know. And I've never been good at meeting new people. I always send off the wrong vibes because I'm always nervous and jittery. I end up saying the wrong thing, or something comes out the wrong way, or my A.D.D. kicks in and I look like a retard. I don't know man, I really don't. I don't even know what else to tell you guys or what I'm even saying.

I guess I just want some sort of feedback, some sort of wider angle on the situation than what I've got. An outside point of view. Or someone who experienced something similar. What were your thoughts, feelings, fears, etc.? I guess that's it... wish me luck at lunch tomorrow.
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TheMuffinMan



Joined: 30 Apr 2005
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:41 am    Post subject: Heavy Situations Reply with quote

I haven't been in exaclty the same situation but I would say i've been in a situation which is similar. I didn't see my dad for the majority of my childhood. In college he came back into my life and we made a decision to be part of each others lives. So i hope my comments can be relavent to your current situation. I also have some serious anxiety and depression issues so it was not a cake walk.

The thing is that you want to present yourself honestly. Now I am not saying specifically throw everything that is bad in your life onto him. However, you should maybe tell him about the severity of your situation and if you feel uncomfortable about providing more details just say so. I would probably try to touch on more surface things in the beginning and then go from there.

Ultimately if he is going to accept you as his son, it is going to have to be the person you are and not any preconcieved notion. So he is going to eventually have to know the whole truth so to speak. But just as you would be going out with a girl for the first time (weird analogy i know) you wouldn't tell her about all your problems right then and there.

Also, you can't assume that he will be the conception that you may have of him. Just take it slow and play it by ear. Hopefully he will be willing to help you with the current situation. However, i would make sure before anything that he is not doing it out of a sense of guilt or duty. You do not want to feel guilty for his actions.

Hopefully he will be sensitive enough to your feelings to not press the situation if you feel uncomfortable. But my best advise is to just be honest with restraint. And if you are anxious when talking to him just interject and let him know whats causing that anxiety because it will probably calm you to just let him know the reason for your unsettled nature etc.

Anyway i hope what i have said helped at least a little. Good luck with meeting your dad and i hope it works out for the best. It seems as though you deserve that at this point in your life.

Btw my dad and i now have a great relationship. It took some time but it is really what a father son relationship should be. I wish the same for you.
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Buffalo-Wing



Joined: 31 Oct 2004
Posts: 16

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just give him a big kiss !
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FusionFire



Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 221

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 25 and have been an only child of a single parent my whole life. My father left when I was 1 and i havn't seen or heard from him. Ever. Honestly, I know its a hard situation to handle. But all the advice I can give is to sit down and think, what is he thinking....and then try and act in accordance with what would make both of you more comfortable. Maybe it means meeting with him around other famiy. That I dont know.Your environment is gonna be a big facotr. SO jsut think things out and bes tof luck to you.
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snoopster



Joined: 04 Dec 2004
Posts: 701
Location: nj

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure he has the same probelm about you; don't worry about it and just be urself.
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gumonshoe



Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Posts: 433

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, i think it might be a prerequisit to be a little messed up to play magic Smile.... i wish i never knew my real dad... i wish he were dead.... when i was 3 my mom remarried and i always thought of him as my real dad untill he started to beat me... i have severe adhd and manic depression... and stuff like that so i mean just be open minded like he is and be grateful that he is not just some deadbeata... he actually wants to know you..... you dont know what to say to people you dont know.... but you still make freinds.... just think of it like that.....
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iKe



Joined: 14 Dec 2005
Posts: 524
Location: New York

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone has there problems....

But my dad is awesome Very Happy
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WildCard



Joined: 06 Sep 2004
Posts: 735
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

erm.. i had something here, im bad at giving advice. i say treat him like a new friend.
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quidam



Joined: 22 Apr 2005
Posts: 196

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do americans have so many mental diseases. God.
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kendiggy



Joined: 30 Nov 2004
Posts: 366
Location: not here

PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

quidam wrote:
Why do americans have so many mental diseases. God.


This really upsets me, it's not my fault I have mental problems. In many cases it's not the individual's fault that he has the problems. I had parents with mental problems who didn't want to accept the fact that they were crazy and were good at covering their tracks. I think I turned out pretty good considering what I went through growing up. Fuck you.

But, so thanks for everyone who had something positive to say, and Flying Freak, one of my friends said that to me, too, lol. Honestly, I had a chance to read some of the comments before he picked me up and they really did kinda ease some of the tension I was feeling, especially Muffin Man's. Thank you.

Anyways, I met the guy today. He's a really cool guy. There is a slight discrepancy about whether or not he really is the one, but we are the same height, we have similar facial features and he started going bald around the age of 21, which was about the time I started getting teased by my friends about my bald spot.

So, he took me out to a bar and we had a couple beers and talked for a while about stuff. He's a really smart guy and he's open minded about alot of things. We both had a great time and I met his wife who was very supportive of the situation and she seemed like a really nice person and she helped us overcome the initial akwardness of meeting.

He bought me a 14kt gold chain and a St. Anthony charm to go with it. St. Anthony is the saint of lost and found, for those who don't know. I'm wearing it now, and I won't take it off. It's genuine 14kt gold, it's got the stamp and I live with a jeweler so I know it's authentic.

But yeah, so, once again, thanks to everyone who responded. It's nice to know that this community can come forward and be supportive of one another once in a while. I'd like everyone to know that if they have any problems in their life and they need to get something out, there is a resource here in this league, just post your problem and you'll get good advice or at least you'll feel better getting it off your shoulders. Hopefully everyone can remain mature and not flame and what not in those threads so people can get the help they're looking for. It's really important to the one who needs it.
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quidam



Joined: 22 Apr 2005
Posts: 196

PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kendiggy wrote:
quidam wrote:
Why do americans have so many mental diseases. God.


This really upsets me, it's not my fault I have mental problems. In many cases it's not the individual's fault that he has the problems. I had parents with mental problems who didn't want to accept the fact that they were crazy and were good at covering their tracks. I think I turned out pretty good considering what I went through growing up. **** you.
Didn't blame you at all, kid, stop looking for enemis. I'm just making the observation that americans come up with all th' mental diseases you can think of.
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