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Zero-Meia



Joined: 26 Feb 2012
Posts: 11

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:27 am    Post subject: RB Control Reply with quote

Hi everyone, without further do, this is the brew I'm starting to test, inspired by Kabelis' Red Control Wins list:

RB Control

// Lands
6 [M12] Mountain (1)
4 [M12] Dragonskull Summit
4 [SOM] Blackcleave Cliffs
2 [ISD] Stensia Bloodhall
10 [ISD] Swamp (3)

// Creatures
2 [SOM] Spikeshot Elder
3 [M12] Grave Titan
2 [M12] Inferno Titan
1 [M12] Rune-Scarred Demon

// Spells
4 [MBS] Slagstorm
2 [NPH] Whipflare
2 [MBS] Black Sun's Zenith
2 [ISD] Curse of Death's Hold
2 [ISD] Liliana of the Veil
3 [M12] Chandra, the Firebrand
4 [MBS] Sphere of the Suns
1 [M12] Sorin Markov
2 [ISD] Devil's Play
4 [NPH] Pristine Talisman

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [MBS] Massacre Wurm
SB: 1 [ISD] Curse of Death's Hold
SB: 1 [M12] Sorin's Vengeance
SB: 2 [ISD] Sever the Bloodline
SB: 2 [NPH] Karn Liberated
SB: 1 [NPH] Batterskull
SB: 1 [M12] Doom Blade
SB: 1 [DKA] Tragic Slip
SB: 2 [MBS] Go for the Throat
SB: 2 [NPH] Surgical Extraction
SB: 1 [NPH] Life's Finale

I just brewed this driven by the fact that having B spells for control is nice. BSZ, Curse and some Lilianas are what makes the controlish part of the deck (along with some R cards like Slagstorm and Whipflares).
Droping turn 3 Chandra and turn 4 curse can lead to some Chandra blowing (not pun intended at all) really nicely.
Not sure about Sorin maindeck, but I find it nice to drop Rune-Scarred to search for him, and post-sb, maybe search for Sorin's Vengeance.
Spikeshot is here for some late-game pinging

I'm not sure about number of titans, or if I'm missing something that could help the control-side of tactics.
Any help or discussion appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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GunsAndDope



Joined: 12 Jul 2011
Posts: 261

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't run the 2 curses maindeck. There's gonna be a lot of matchups where that card is useless.
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NearSideMoon



Joined: 29 Mar 2012
Posts: 65

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sideboard Memoricide, then tell me how well it performs Very Happy
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mtgsoldier



Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Posts: 59

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

go see the deck i played in the standard trial that i make 4th place.
i changed that list a big and it played awsomely
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Zero-Meia



Joined: 26 Feb 2012
Posts: 11

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everyone, so, this is the list that I am running nowadays (made a few adjustments after playtesting and getting some advices):

// Lands
6 [M12] Mountain (1)
4 [M12] Dragonskull Summit
4 [SOM] Blackcleave Cliffs
2 [ISD] Stensia Bloodhall
7 [ISD] Swamp (3)
3 [AVR] Cavern of Souls

// Creatures
1 [SOM] Spikeshot Elder
2 [M12] Inferno Titan
1 [M12] Rune-Scarred Demon

// Spells
4 [MBS] Slagstorm
2 [NPH] Whipflare
2 [MBS] Black Sun's Zenith
2 [ISD] Liliana of the Veil
3 [M12] Chandra, the Firebrand
4 [MBS] Sphere of the Suns
1 [M12] Sorin Markov
3 [ISD] Devil's Play
2 [NPH] Pristine Talisman
1 [M12] Sorin's Vengeance
2 [DKA] Curse of Bloodletting
4 [AVR] Vessel of Endless Rest

// Sideboard
SB: 2 [MBS] Massacre Wurm
SB: 2 [ISD] Curse of Death's Hold
SB: 1 [ISD] Sever the Bloodline
SB: 2 [NPH] Karn Liberated
SB: 1 [NPH] Batterskull
SB: 2 [NPH] Surgical Extraction
SB: 1 [NPH] Life's Finale
SB: 2 [SOM] Memoricide
SB: 2 [ISD] Olivia Voldaren


So, the basic changes are:
-3 Grave Titans
-1 Spikeshot Elder
Curses moved to SB
Sorin's Vengeance to MD (to tutor with Rune-scarred Demon)
+3 Cavern of Souls (don't quite like 4... in fact, I think of moving to 2)
Now I run 26 lands instead of 25
-2 Pristine Talisman (Running 4 Vessel of Endless Rest, not quite sure about that, but I think that having access to the third red/black color sometimes matter when dropping Sorin, Slagstorm, Liliana and even Sorin's Vengeance)
+1 Massacre Wurm to SB
+2 Memoricide
+2 Olivia Voldaren (it's quite impressive in play when it doesn't gets Legend rule'd)
+2 Curse of Bloodletting (combos with chandra + devil's play and sorin's vengeance, and with any damage, tbh)


So far, the deck has been performing good at ramps matchups, winning against WG and RG ramp.
Against delver, RG aggro, humans (WR, UW and WW) it is performing very well too.

The thing I can't quite control is Gideon Jura at WUB control and UW control.

Any thoughts?
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thedonwald



Joined: 05 Feb 2012
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mtgsoldier wrote:
go see the deck i played in the standard trial that i make 4th place.
i changed that list a big and it played awsomely


any changes to that deck you played? I am very interested in taking it (or something simular) to a ptq near me ... think the meta is pretty right for it would love to hear what you think the deck needs still
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