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Faster Quillspike Combo



 
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IvanDano



Joined: 24 Oct 2008
Posts: 41

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:13 am    Post subject: Faster Quillspike Combo Reply with quote

Trying this out for a little while now and it's been successful...to say the least...but I can always use suggestions!

// Lands (23)
4 Gilt-Leaf Palace
7 Forest
4 Llanowar Wastes
5 Swamp
3 Twilight Mire

// Creatures (16)
4 Devoted Druid
4 Quillspike
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Llanowar Elves

// Spells
4 Thoughtseize
4 Rite of Consumption
3 Ad Nauseam
4 Commune with Nature
3 Mercy Killing
2 Makeshift Mannequin

// Sideboard
2 Necrogenesis
2 Cloudthresher
2 Naturalize
3 Gutteral Response
3 Oversoul of Dusk
3 Stillmoon Cavalier
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KeySam



Joined: 14 Oct 2005
Posts: 619

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you have nothing but the combo and its a pretty fragile combo, i would suggest adding another plan to the deck or play a lot of return cards like profane command/manique. or you will to often just die to 1-2 removal spells or counters. What do you do against pithing needle maindeck, i know its not that mutch played but still. I also think that if you realy want to go all in on the combo i would play souls fire, its just another rite of consumption, a bit more fragile to be fair, but its by far the best card you can get to combo but rite of consumption. i am also not sure if birds of paradise and llanowar elves is right, doesnt seem like you need a ton of mana. The more i think about an all in version the more i like it, maybe i will try such a deck.

KeySam
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 1951

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The point of birds/elves is to combo faster, I suppose. But I would really always want to have Druid in play first.
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KeySam



Joined: 14 Oct 2005
Posts: 619

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i tested the deck a bit, i still would suggest profane command over mercy killing. And splashing red for souls fire isnt worth it. I also found out that the birds/llanowar dont do a hole lot, i would rather play something else, that geths the combo or buys you some time. I would suggest thinking about beseech the queen, should add some consitency to the deck, although it hurts when revealed via Ad nauseam Sad, maybe as a 2 of. But i like the deck.

KeySam
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 1951

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would rather have Kitchen Finks than Mercy Killing. The chances are that when you play Nauseam, you would want as much life as you can get, and then you either get Rite, Druid and Spike or you don't. At that point, you would want to survive a turn so that you can combo.

Also, the key cards, Druid, Quillspike, Consumption and Ad Nauseam must all be 4-of.

You can make room by reducing the number of 1-drops and Mercy Killing. 8 isn't necessary. 6 is sufficient.

So -2 Llanowar Elves, -3 Mercy Killing

+1 Ad Nauseam, +4 Kitchen Finks
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gdhack



Joined: 12 Aug 2008
Posts: 85

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

try this deck out it took 9th at states and is popping up every where


// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
3 [7E] Swamp (3)
2 [TSP] Forest (1)
4 [10E] Llanowar Wastes
4 [EVE] Twilight Mire
4 [LRW] Gilt-Leaf Palace
3 [MOR] Mutavault
3 [UL] Treetop Village

// Creatures
4 [EVE] Quillspike
3 [LRW] Garruk Wildspeaker
1 [10E] Nantuko Husk
4 [SHM] Murderous Redcap
4 [SHM] Kitchen Finks
4 [SHM] Devoted Druid
2 [LRW] Shriekmaw
2 [LRW] Liliana Vess

// Spells
4 [LRW] Profane Command
3 [LRW] Primal Command
1 [MR] Loxodon Warhammer
2 [SHM] Rite of Consumption
3 [LRW] Thoughtseize

// Sideboard
SB: 2 [LRW] Shriekmaw
SB: 1 [LRW] Liliana Vess
SB: 1 [LRW] Thoughtseize
SB: 3 [LRW] Cloudthresher
SB: 2 [MOR] Mind Shatter
SB: 2 [SHM] Puppeteer Clique
SB: 4 [SHM] Guttural Response

thats my version its been doing really well and has alot of synergy
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jdio88



Joined: 06 Nov 2008
Posts: 54

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would actually cut the ad nauseams, and the mercy killings actually, i mean, yes, mercy killings gets u the 3 billion tokens, but still... its a lil costly, and u could have better stuff than that... so heres what i think myself:

-3 nauseams
-3 mercy killings
+4 finks
+2 chameleon collossus


And just think, if ur still running black, why not go with bitterblossom tokens? I mean, in almost any deck you can use them, especially if ur combo doesnt work... so u could cut the commune with natures for bitterblossoms... but i dont know if ur budgeted or not, so if so, keep the natures in there, or try gift of the gargantuan... it seems to help with 1 land and 1 creaure at least...

And for ur mana base?

its a descent mana base, id personally take out gilt leaf palace and put some vivids in, or just take it out and put more basics... ne ways...have at it! i had a quillspike deck myself, except it was naya collored... and it looked something like this:

Lands(25)
2x brushlands
2x karplusan forests
2x battlefield forge
3x jungle shrine
4x reflecting pool
6x forest
3x mountain
3x plains

Creatures(1Cool
4x quillspike
4x devoted druid
4x birds of paradise
3x ci ci
3x kitchen finks

Spells(17)
2x garruk
4x souls fire
4x souls grace
2x primal command
3x snakeform
2x firespout

Sideboard(15)
3x gaddock teeg
3x gutteral response
3x oversoul of dusk
3x cloudthresher
3x naturalize

it did me really well, especially with a nuts draw, T3 win.. hehe:
Hand( souls grace(t3)/fire(t4), 3 mana, quillspike, devoted druid, birds of paradise)
T1- land, birds
T2- land, devoted
t3- land, quilspike, use combo, then a grace ftw!! hehe, 3 billion life...
and if that doesnt work, u always have backup with ci ci, finks, and garruk, not including the overruns and garruk tokens.. so its pretty well developed, and of course, oversoul is in side b/c of different matchups...

well, hope i helped a little!
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gdhack



Joined: 12 Aug 2008
Posts: 85

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sigh well if u do go that route u will lose alot more games just because there is so much hate against the combo all they have to do is counter take ur creature and do umpteen million things if u want a decent quillspike decklist use the one i gave its mor consistent better win condtions and runs like gb rock so u shouldnt have problems
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