RW Persist

TekNique · Joined: 19 Mar 2008 Posts: 157

Okay so i had this idea about using brion stoutarm and reveillark. That didn't work out so the next best thing was persist! Not hard right? Find the best persist creatures and let Brion sac them for lifegain+ability and burn them for the rest.

1 Twilight Shepherd
2 Ajani Goldmane
4 Brion Stoutarm
1 Thunderblust
3 Heartmender
4 Murderous Redcap
4 Kitchen Finks
2 Dominus of Fealty
2 Figure of Destiny
4 Demigod of Revenge

4 Flame Javelin
4 Rift bolt

2 Vivid Meadow
2 Vivid Crag
4 Rugged Prairie
4 Reflecting Pool
4 Battlefield Forge
6 Mountain
3 Plains

I choose Dominus of Fealty so i could sacrifice their creatures after using them. Demigod of revenge in case they are able to block it, while damage on stack sac it; Figure of Destiny for a 1 drop that is useful late game; Twilight Shepherd for the same reason plus it deals a lot of damage each sac; Thunderblust because after it most likely dies.. sac while damage on stack it comes back with trample and do the same thing; and obivously heartmender so you can create a cycle late enough in the game of taking -1/-1 counters off then sacing again. Ajani is also a good way of taking -1/-1 counters off by neutralizing them.

I am trying to figure out a way to fit in Wrath of God or Pyroclasm in this but it isn't working. Any suggestions would be useful! Thanks

jdf121 · Joined: 21 May 2005 Posts: 193

What do you do on turns 1 and 2? Just Kick it? And thats if u get finks by turn 3. The curve is ridiculous. By the time u get ur synergy working u should be beaten. I think this deck may have the same fate as the last one u mentioned.

gmoney · Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 24

alright so lets talk about you as a deck designer.

-No metagame)playing cards that are good against the top tier of decks)
ex.
cloudthresher for faeries
firespout for creatues w/ Toughness three or less(when the best decks are tribal this card is supreme)

-No curve(mana curve is accumulating drops of creatures or spells that lead u to your desirable game state so when you play somthing exspesive your deck is ready to abuse it)

example:

Turn 1 Nettle Setinel
Turn 2 Wren's Run Vanquisher
Turn 3 Wilt-Leaf Cavaliers
Turn 4 Wilt-Leaf Liege

or

Turn 1 Vivid land(they come into play tapped so you can count them against your one drop)
Turn 2 Mana Rock aka artifact that produces mana for less then three(Mind stone, prismatic lens)
Turn 3 another vivid Evoke mulldrifter
Turn 4 Revielark

In both instances the first four turns are thought of because those are the only guranteed turns you get.

-Unthought removal spells, i played your deck one time and everytime I drew burn it was pointless and less optimal then what white offers.(crib swap, oblivion ring) your also bein unrealistic. You will never have to burn an opponent out with the way you build you deck.

-Lack of respect for those that really build decks.
if you had any respect you'd go to starcitygames.com/Magicthegathering.com and try to catch up with the competetive scene.

fyi
Evan Erwin(he has a youtube video show about magic that gets a new episode everyweek and talks about the latest trends in magic)

Millions of hours are spent playing with these cards your not the only one thinking!!!

-no playtesting, don't post another deck without playing at least 5 games with it

Vedrfolner · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 1401

I think that a useful mind set when building a deck would be the following:

Every spell you play will be countered, or it will have no impact if it isn't.

Every non-land permanent you play will be destroyed, stolen, removed from the game or it will have no impact on the game.

Your hand will either be exhausted or removed; in any case the cards you hold are useless.

Your graveyard will be removed from the game.

Your library will be removed from the game or put into your graveyard. Regardless, nothing in it will help you win the game.

You won't ever draw a specific card out of your deck.

Your game-plan will be disrupted. It won't be good enough anyways even if it isn't.

Your combo pieces won't show, and even if they did, the combo won't win you the game.

... NOW go build a deck that negates those facts.

Lovecraft · Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 15

gmoney · Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 24

because if despite all of that stuff u still win u built an awesome deck

Trotsky1 · Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 905

No deck can negate all those problems something has to go right for you.

Vedrfolner · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 1401

I just thought such a mind-set would be more useful than just assuming everything you plan to do is going to be okay. Be more critical to your own ideas. Prepare for Murphy's Law.

SaTiVa · Joined: 09 Jun 2005 Posts: 198

he is saying prepare for the worst ... but u can still hope for the best if u like Smile