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Mono-Black.. to the point



 
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TekNique



Joined: 19 Mar 2008
Posts: 157

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Mono-Black.. to the point Reply with quote

24 Swamp

4 Demigod of Revenge
4 Needle Specter
3 Murderous Redcap
3 Dusk Urchins
1 Midnight Banshee

4 Badmoon

2 Cruel Edict
3 Nameless inversion
4 Extirpate
4 Profane Command
4 Damnation


Shriekmaw may have a place in this but im not sure where. Needle Specter and Badmoon rape hands. This deck can deal with persist and wither well.

Dusk Urchins blocking wither or getting blocked by wither accelerate drawing process exponentially. Extirpate for cards discarded such as a possible chameleon colossus or evershrike, reveillark etc.. Profane command to make my guys unblockable, kill, etc.. just fit well for later game.

Quick Question: Does Midnight banshee work on chameleon colossus cause its a global effect such as damnation on colossus?

SB for colossus:
+2 Cruel Edicts
-2 Nameless inversion

+4 Trip Noose
-1 Nameless inversion
-1 Midnight Banshee
-2 Profane Command
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shadow483



Joined: 21 Jun 2007
Posts: 55

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like needle specter. If your going to run a card like him, I'd use Hypnotic specter. Same cost almost same abilities (no wither), but a 2/2.
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Deuce



Joined: 06 Oct 2007
Posts: 62

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Except for Needle Specters ability to grow with Bad Moon but I dont know if that is enough.
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 1401

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the 12 last cards you listed doesn't make sense.
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Serigado



Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colossus gets -1-1 counters from midnight banshee. It doesn't target.
there are few creatures, for badmoon, I think...
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Shogun



Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 17

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You try to play a creaturedeck with badmoon, and at the same time a controldeck with 4 damnation.

Doesnt make sense :/

Extirpate is no mainboardcard, except maybe 1 if you play beseech the queen, and you will have trouble casting useful commands and your banshees with just 24 swamps.
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TekNique



Joined: 19 Mar 2008
Posts: 157

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vedrfolner wrote:
the 12 last cards you listed doesn't make sense.


What would you suggest putting in those places? More creatures?

The reason i put damnation in was for chameleon colossus and decks that are a lot faster than this deck which there are a lot of. This deck doesn't start working until turn 4. by then elves can have a swarm as well as merfolk.
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gypsy



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bad moon doesnt really do anything in your deck, your deck is controlling you dont need badmoon
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 1401

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TekNique wrote:
Vedrfolner wrote:
the 12 last cards you listed doesn't make sense.


What would you suggest putting in those places? More creatures?

The reason i put damnation in was for chameleon colossus and decks that are a lot faster than this deck which there are a lot of. This deck doesn't start working until turn 4. by then elves can have a swarm as well as merfolk.


If you are going to both defend and attack, you need way way more card drawing than you got, which is roughly zero. Right now black doesn't have any good draw cards, so you need to choose unless you go into blue. So: either start out killing their creatures, then drop your superior win conditions (MBC); or start dropping threats and kill theirs later (MBA). Doing both at the same time requires more resources than you got.

And Extirpate does absolutely nothing to most decks. 4 Profane Command is bad in a deck with 3 creatures you would (and should) bother getting back within the time period it is likely you will stay alive/have won.
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