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Type_3
Joined: 20 May 2008
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 Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject: RB Wither |
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I came up with this deck concept shortly after 2008 Regionals. (Placed 16th in SE regionals after a mistake in replacing sideboard, but w/e).
In preparing for the Berlin PTQ, and seeing as how Kithkin are demolishing block right now, I wanted to come up with a decent deck that: 1) nearly completely kithkin hate, and 2) could beat the other Tier 1 Block decks (Doran and Fae).
Keep in mind that this is a rough deck, has had absolutely no play testing, and has not been mana curved yet. I came up with it while driving.
Heres what I came up with:
Creatures
4 Mogg-Fanatic
4 Tattermunge Maniac
4 Boggart Ram-Gang
4 Demigod of Revenge
4 Dusk Urchin
Spells:
4 Lash Out
4 Puncture Bolt
4 Flame Javelline
3 Blowfly Infestation
3 Everlasting Torment
Lands:
4 Graven Cairns
4 Mutavault
11 Mountain
2 Swamp
1 Urborg, Tomg of Yawgmoth
There is no sidebaord yet... I feel that with the amount of burn, and 1 drops that I could survive to get Demigod's out ftw.
Explanation:
Once blowfly infestation is out, a puncture bolt wipes the board of kithkins... and instead of putting that last -1/-1 counter on one of my creatures, I can make mutavault a creature until end of turn, -1/-1 to him, and then end of turn the counter comes off.
Once everlasting torment is out, Elephant hammers don't work, the 2/2 kithkin first strike life link doesn't work.
Both are out, Any damage wipes the board of kithkins.
Everlasting torment + Dusk Urchin + Flame Jav = Draw ATLEAST 4 cards for 3 red mana... Yay?
I feel that this deck is fast enough to compete with a turn 2 doran... and feel that it has enough control to compete with Kithkin.
I'm taking something similiar to this to PTQ Berlin so any suggestions would be great. Thanks guys! |
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Edowardo
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Seems straight but urborg, and fanatics are out, not block. Thats all i got. |
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zapppp
Joined: 09 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| sry the counter doenst come off of the mutavault |
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mTk-Away
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 73
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:28 am Post subject: |
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I tested the same idea in T2 a while ago... of course it horribly failed, but it could work in block.
You might want to try Knollspine Invocation there. It's great with Demigods, Javelins and any spare Torments you draw. Against anything blue it's just fantastic, as it's uncouterrable x spell at instant speed!
Another thing worth a shot, if you're going towards the controllish style, would be Beseech the Queen.
Also, as noted earlier, counters on Mutavault remain even if it isn't a creature anymore. |
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Orlandu
Joined: 25 Sep 2004
Posts: 165
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:10 am Post subject: Er |
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| Couple things. First, I'm a little confused as to how puncture bolt+blowfly wipes their board when most of their guys are x/2s. Also, elephant hammers? You're not refering to loxodon warhammer are you? |
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TugaChampion
Joined: 26 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:19 am Post subject: |
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| LOL this topic is hilarious! |
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trueeevil
Joined: 08 Dec 2007
Posts: 164
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Sulf blast, firespout, hurly burly, any mass damage is good, especially with torment.
Everlasting torment + Dusk Urchin + Flame Jav = Draw ATLEAST 4 cards for 3 red mana... Yay?
I'm pretty sure you don't want to be killing your own creature with a good burn spell that has better uses. YOu'd be much better off if you attacked.
Once blowfly infestation is out, a puncture bolt wipes the board of kithkins... and instead of putting that last -1/-1 counter on one of my creatures, I can make mutavault a creature until end of turn, -1/-1 to him, and then end of turn the counter comes off.
The counter will not come off. |
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Trotsky1
Joined: 12 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| Good preperation tip for a PTQ know what cards are legal in the format, I thought that would be obvious to everyone but apprently not. |
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kfcman
Joined: 16 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:50 am Post subject: |
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| Orlandu wrote: | | Couple things. First, I'm a little confused as to how puncture bolt+blowfly wipes their board when most of their guys are x/2s. Also, elephant hammers? You're not refering to loxodon warhammer are you? |
If you have torment out the bolt has wither so it puts 2 -1/-1s on the creatures. duh.
| Trotsky1 wrote: | | Good preperation tip for a PTQ know what cards are legal in the format, I thought that would be obvious to everyone but apprently not. |
Yea dude. Mogg Fanatic, Urborg are not in LRW/SHM block.
| Type_3 wrote: | | Once everlasting torment is out, Elephant hammers don't work, the 2/2 kithkin first strike life link doesn't work. |
And the "elephant hammers" which are loxodon warhammers btw are not legal in block either. You REALLY need to look over the block card pool. You're gameplanning for strategies that dont exist.
| zapppp wrote: | | sry the counter doenst come off of the mutavault |
And yea, zapppp is right, the counter will stay on the mutavault. Just because a -1/-1 counter doesnt effect a land when its just a land doesnt mean the counter comes off. Llanowar Reborn comes into play with a +1/+1 counter on it that doesnt effect the reborn at all. |
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Type_3
Joined: 20 May 2008
Posts: 7
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Like I said, The deck needs some fine tuning, and I made it up while driving. So cut me some slack here guys.
Yes Elephant hammers are Loxodon Warhammers, it's something funny I heard them called at Regionals.
I had forgotten about Mogg Fanatic not being legal in LBC format. My bad. I've been playing again almost a full month now. Yay!
Blowfly infestation combined with puncture bolt... Target they're Cenn, kills it, and then you put the next -1/-1 counter on any X/1's....
I thought about Incremental Blight, Does it have to have 3 targets? Or can you put a -1/-1 counter on 1 target and then Not have the next 2 targets?
Dusk Urchins are what.. a 4/3 to begin with? After blocking or swinging twice they are now useless. And have 2 -1/-1 counters... hit them with any DD spell while Everlasting torment is out. I think it's a nice little combo if you're empty handed. And Against kithkin... when do you need 4 dmg to a creature? |
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Jeyo
Joined: 03 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:19 am Post subject: |
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| Type_3 wrote: | | Dusk Urchins are what.. a 4/3 to begin with? After blocking or swinging twice they are now useless. And have 2 -1/-1 counters... hit them with any DD spell while Everlasting torment is out. I think it's a nice little combo if you're empty handed. |
Or, instead of wasting your own burn spell on the urchins, you could attack a third time and place another -1/-1 counter on them, causing them to go to the yard and draw you three cards. |
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coolcreep
Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Posts: 290
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:36 am Post subject: |
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| Long as you are using cards that arent LBC legal, why not go mox ruby? |
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Orlandu
Joined: 25 Sep 2004
Posts: 165
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject: Yeah.. |
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| Er yeah didn't realize the interaction there. Still seems.. meh, but whatever. And warhammer is in 10th.. |
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