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MaksymG
Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Posts: 174
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 Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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| In order to be absolutely fair in my comments, I just took ten minutes out of my day to input the deck into mws adn tested it in solo mode. Out of maybe 11 games, the deck went off turn 3 ONE time and that is because i pretended I was on the play and 8 out of the first 9 cards were perfect. Having said this, the deck sucks. It has mana issues, consitancy issues and all of this when gold fishing, I dont even want to play against rune snags or slaugher pacts, good night. |
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R3wind
Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Posts: 883
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| So how does this deck unlimited Tokens? I have got to be missing something. |
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noobmellow
Joined: 26 Mar 2008
Posts: 98
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Spliff wrote: | why is canopy not considered a land??????
are you overlooking the "T: add G or W to your mana pool" part? |
I don't know. It says land on it. Maybe he misread the card or something. |
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noobmellow
Joined: 26 Mar 2008
Posts: 98
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| R3wind wrote: | | So how does this deck unlimited Tokens? I have got to be missing something. |
Primal Command and Elvish Promenade getting mana with Heritage Druid. Also, infinite non creature bounce and infinite life. |
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Vedrfolner
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 1221
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| noobmellow wrote: | | R3wind wrote: | | So how does this deck unlimited Tokens? I have got to be missing something. |
Primal Command and Elvish Promenade getting mana with Heritage Druid. Also, infinite non creature bounce and infinite life. |
That deck idea has been tried before, I don't remember by who, but the concept was to go infinite in theory, not in a magic game.
As a theory it is amusing enough, as a magic deck it sucked then, it sucks now and the saddest part about this was that the original poster never meant it to do anything but suck - while you seem to be serious enough.
The deck isn't Elf Ramp - that would be a deck ramping up mana to play big stuff, using elves. This deck is Elf Token Combo, and that is completely different. In any case it isn't a tournament worthy deck idea - so you get harsh replies because you touted it as one. |
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ManaLeak
Joined: 08 Nov 2005
Posts: 131
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:25 am Post subject: Re: Regionals Metabreaker Revealed: Elf Ramp |
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| noobmellow wrote: | Regionals: Elf Ramp
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Heritage Druid
4 Boreal Druid
1 Rhys the Redeemed
4 Elvish Harbinger
1 Imperious Perfect
1 Cloudthresher
1 Vigor
4 Summoner’s Pact
4 Manamorphose
1 Hunting Triad
4 Elvish Promenade
4 Harmonize
4 Primal Command
1 Pendelhaven
4 Horizon Canopy
14 Forest
Sideboard:
4 Eyes of the Wisent
4 Wheel of Sun and Moon
3 Cloudthresher
1 Vexing Shusher
3 Vigor |
Sorry dude... but since you want to post this i gonna beat it with a more timmy style deck that you can't even deal with
i call it manaleak goes platinum.
// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)
// Lands
12 [SHM] Island (1)
12 [SHM] Plains (2)
// Creatures
4 [SHM] Cemetery Puca
4 [10E] Platinum Angel
4 [TSP] Chronosavant
4 [10E] Merfolk Looter
// Spells
4 [FUT] Pact of Negation
4 [SHM] Ghastly Discovery
4 [10E] Mind Stone
4 [TSB] Resurrection
4 [SHM] Savor the Moment
try it out token are pointless if you simply can't win. |
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ManaLeak
Joined: 08 Nov 2005
Posts: 131
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:41 am Post subject: me winning with platinum |
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<New Game: waiting for opponent>
Manaleak shuffles library
<Manaleak> This is the beginning of the end..
Manaleak draws 0 cards
LeleMetal shuffles library
<LeleMetal> Are you ready to rock?
LeleMetal draws 0 cards
<-------- New Game Started -------->
Manaleak's Security Code: 024DFC95 [Type 2]
LeleMetal's Security Code: E664E0F0 [Type 2]
It is now turn 1 (Manaleak)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
LeleMetal shuffles library
LeleMetal shuffles library
LeleMetal shuffles library
Manaleak shuffles library
LeleMetal rolled a 9, using a 20 sided die
Manaleak shuffles library
Manaleak rolled a 4, using a 20 sided die
Manaleak draws 7 cards
LeleMetal draws 7 cards
<Manaleak> kp
It is now turn 2 (LeleMetal)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
LeleMetal untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
LeleMetal plays Plains from Hand
It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
<LeleMetal> End my turn
It is now turn 3 (Manaleak)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
Manaleak untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
Manaleak draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
Manaleak plays Plains from Hand
<Manaleak> End my turn
It is now turn 4 (LeleMetal)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
LeleMetal untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
LeleMetal draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
LeleMetal plays Plains from Hand
LeleMetal taps Plains
LeleMetal plays Children of Korlis from Hand
<Manaleak> Ok
It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
<LeleMetal> End my turn
It is now turn 5 (Manaleak)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
Manaleak untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
Manaleak draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
Manaleak plays Island from Hand
Manaleak taps Plains
Manaleak taps Island
Manaleak plays Merfolk Looter from Hand
<Manaleak> End my turn
It is now turn 6 (LeleMetal)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
LeleMetal untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
LeleMetal draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
LeleMetal plays Plains from Hand
LeleMetal taps Plains
LeleMetal taps Plains
LeleMetal plays Courier Hawk from Hand
It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
<LeleMetal> End my turn
It is now turn 7 (Manaleak)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
Manaleak untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
Manaleak draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
Manaleak taps Merfolk Looter
Manaleak draws a card
Manaleak discards Chronosavant
Manaleak plays Plains from Hand
Manaleak taps Plains
Manaleak taps Island
Manaleak taps Plains
Manaleak plays Ghastly Discovery from Hand
Manaleak draws a card
Manaleak draws a card
Manaleak discards Chronosavant
<Manaleak> End my turn
It is now turn 8 (LeleMetal)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
Manaleak puts Ghastly Discovery to Graveyard from Play
LeleMetal untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
LeleMetal draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
LeleMetal plays Plains from Hand
LeleMetal taps Plains
LeleMetal taps Plains
LeleMetal taps Plains
LeleMetal plays Aven Riftwatcher from Hand
LeleMetal's life total is now 22 (+2)
<Manaleak> Ok
Aven Riftwatcher now has 3 (+3) counters.
It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
LeleMetal taps Courier Hawk
LeleMetal taps Courier Hawk
LeleMetal untaps Courier Hawk
LeleMetal untaps Courier Hawk
LeleMetal taps Children of Korlis
LeleMetal taps Children of Korlis
Manaleak's life total is now 19 (-1)
Manaleak's life total is now 18 (-1)
It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
<LeleMetal> End my turn
It is now turn 9 (Manaleak)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
Manaleak untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
Manaleak draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
Manaleak plays Island from Hand
Manaleak taps Plains
Manaleak taps Island
Manaleak taps Island
Manaleak plays Savor the Moment from Hand
Manaleak taps Merfolk Looter
Manaleak draws a card
Manaleak discards Merfolk Looter
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
Manaleak puts Savor the Moment to Graveyard from Play
Manaleak untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
Manaleak draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
Manaleak taps Plains
Manaleak taps Island
Manaleak taps Plains
Manaleak untaps Plains
Manaleak taps Island
Manaleak plays Plains from Hand
Manaleak taps Plains
Manaleak taps Plains
Manaleak plays Mind Stone from Hand
<Manaleak> End my turn
It is now turn 10 (LeleMetal)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
LeleMetal untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
LeleMetal draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
Aven Riftwatcher now has 2 (-1) counters.
LeleMetal taps Plains
LeleMetal taps Plains
LeleMetal plays Benalish Cavalry from Hand
<Manaleak> Ok
It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
LeleMetal taps Courier Hawk
LeleMetal taps Courier Hawk
Manaleak's life total is now 17 (-1)
LeleMetal untaps Courier Hawk
LeleMetal untaps Courier Hawk
Manaleak's life total is now 15 (-2)
LeleMetal taps Aven Riftwatcher
LeleMetal taps Aven Riftwatcher
It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
<LeleMetal> End my turn
<Manaleak> EOT
Manaleak taps Merfolk Looter
Manaleak draws a card
Manaleak discards Cemetery Puca
It is now turn 11 (Manaleak)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
Manaleak untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
Manaleak draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
Manaleak taps Merfolk Looter
Manaleak draws a card
Manaleak discards Plains
Manaleak plays Island from Hand
Manaleak taps Island
Manaleak taps Island
Manaleak taps Island
Manaleak plays Savor the Moment from Hand
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
Manaleak draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
Manaleak puts Savor the Moment to Graveyard from Play
Manaleak plays Plains from Hand
Manaleak taps Plains
Manaleak taps Plains
Manaleak puts Chronosavant into play from Graveyard
Manaleak taps Chronosavant
<Manaleak> End my turn
It is now turn 12 (LeleMetal)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
LeleMetal untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
LeleMetal draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
LeleMetal plays Plains from Hand
LeleMetal taps Plains
LeleMetal taps Plains
LeleMetal taps Plains
LeleMetal taps Plains
LeleMetal taps Plains
LeleMetal plays Angel of Mercy from Hand
Aven Riftwatcher now has 1 (-1) counters.
LeleMetal's life total is now 25 (+3)
LeleMetal taps Aven Riftwatcher
LeleMetal taps Benalish Cavalry
It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
Manaleak's life total is now 10 (-5)
It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
<LeleMetal> End my turn
It is now turn 13 (Manaleak)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
Manaleak untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
Manaleak draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
Manaleak taps Merfolk Looter
Manaleak draws a card
Manaleak discards Merfolk Looter
Manaleak taps Plains
Manaleak taps Island
Manaleak taps Island
Manaleak untaps Island
Manaleak taps Island
Manaleak untaps Island
Manaleak taps Plains
Manaleak plays Ghastly Discovery from Hand
Manaleak draws a card
Manaleak draws a card
Manaleak discards Platinum Angel
Manaleak puts Ghastly Discovery to Graveyard from Play
Manaleak taps Plains
Manaleak taps Plains
Manaleak taps Island
Manaleak taps Island
Manaleak plays Resurrection from Hand
Manaleak puts Platinum Angel into play from Graveyard
Manaleak puts Resurrection to Graveyard from Play
It is now the Combat Phase, Beginning Of Combat Step
Manaleak taps Chronosavant
Manaleak untaps Chronosavant
Manaleak taps Chronosavant
Manaleak taps Chronosavant
Manaleak taps Chronosavant
<Manaleak> hello?
<Manaleak> k
LeleMetal puts Courier Hawk to Graveyard from Play
<Manaleak> End my turn
It is now turn 14 (LeleMetal)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
LeleMetal untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
LeleMetal draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
LeleMetal plays Plains from Hand
<System> Player Lost
i had 2 pacts in hand... and chrono and platinum on field.. |
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NinjaCan
Joined: 28 May 2008
Posts: 54
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| Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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I think I understand what you're going for here,
You might want to try something like allen comer's deck.
Elf Grenade
Main Deck
4 Forest
4 Gemstone Mine
4 Grove of the Burnwillows
1 Mosswort Bridge
1 Pendelhaven
4 Yavimaya Coast
18 lands
4 Boreal Druid
4 Bramblewood Paragon
4 Heritage Druid
4 Imperious Perfect
4 Llanowar Elves
2 Wren's Run Vanquisher
22 creatures
4 Distant Melody
4 Elvish Promenade
4 Gilt-Leaf Ambush
4 Hunting Triad
3 Roar of the Crowd
1 Rune Snag
20 other spells
Sideboard
4 Elvish Eulogist
4 Guttural Response
1 Masked Admirers
1 Primal Command
3 Rune Snag
2 Wren's Run Vanquisher
Basically take out the useless junk like manamorphose, and things that aren't really necessary in an elf token deck like primal command. A bit more consistent, a bit higher threat per card.
Ideally you drop distant melody, unload your huge hand via Heritage druid, and cast roar of the crowd for the win.
Still kind of a weird deck, but not as much of an auto-lose to pyroclasm/sulfurous blast/firespout/martyr of ashes etc |
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