RDW ideas

skilla420 · Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Posts: 258

Does anyone have any good ideas for basic a basic RDW deck?
Here's my current thoughts: (let's try without mutavault)

1 keldon megaliths
4 ghitu encampments
19 mountain

4 mogg fanatics
4 magus of the scroll
4 keldon marauders
2 greater gargadon
2 blood knight
1 sulfur elemental

4 incinerate
4 rift bolt
4 shock
2 browbeats
4 shard volley
1 Beacon of destruction

sb:
3 threaten
4 cyroclasms
4 magus of moons
1 shivan meteor
3 sulfur elemental
(4 guttural responses?)

something like that...

kfcman · Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 665

ok to start, ghitu sucks. play vault. play tattermunge. browbeat is pretty bad. if youre gonna go garga, then go full set of 4 with mogg war marshalls, dont play beacon, round out your numbers for consistency. and finally. dont play 24 land.

skilla420 · Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Posts: 258

well im leaning more toward the burn side of it. And let me start off by saying: i agree that:
-ghitu sucks
- i need mutavault (expensive though)
- go gargadon or go home
- tattermunge = good
but..
- why is browbeat bad?
- and why not 24 land?

skilla420 · Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Posts: 258

new idea:
4 mutavault
1 keldon megalith
17 mountain

4 mogg fanatic
2 siege-gang commander
4 keldon marauders
2 magus of the scroll
2 blood knight
2 sulfur elemental
2 tattermunge fanatic

4 rift bolt
4 incinerate
4 shard volley
4 shock
4 pyroclasm

sb:
3 guttural responses
3 threaten
3 cyroclasms
1 sulfur elemental
4 magus of moon

skilla420 · Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Posts: 258

oh wait, don't i need sulfurous blast?

skilla420 · Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Posts: 258

Here's another prototype. I took out the a few things including tattermunges because they could fall too easily to faeries or other 1/1 pests:

4 Mutavault
18 Mountain

2 magus/scroll
4 mogg fanatic
4 ember-wilde augur
4 keldon marauders
4 inner-flame acolytes

4 incinerate
4 rift bolt
4 shard volley
4 pyroclasm
4 sulfurous blast

sb:
3-sulfur elemental
3 threaten
4 magus/moon
3 cyroclasm
2 guttural responses

TekNique · Joined: 19 Mar 2008 Posts: 157

ashenmoor liege might be a nice addition in place of inner-flame acolytes
You might also want to use flame javelin as another burn spell.

dbough · Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 16

I agree - Flame Jav. is a cheap 4 banger.

Generally RDW decks have around 20 mana. The idea is to get a lot of cheap burn spells in so you don't need lot of land. You can use those 4 slots to play 4 burns instead.

Hank333 · Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 212 Location: San Antoni

mogg fanatic 4
tattermunge maniac 4
tarmogoyf 4
keldon maraders 4
Borgart ram-rang 4
Tarfire 3
shard volley 3
incinerate 4
flame javalin 4
Rift Bolt 4
call of the herd 1(???)
Karpulsion Forest 4
Flame lite thiquet 4
Pendelhaven 1
mountian 12

mana base is still suboptimal and the call of the herd is random, though of a good card thats easy to splash, also still has a little umph to it. Also i don't know what to do for a side board. Just don't play everlasting torment, it isn't worth it.I heard kavu predator might be good, i dunno.

BurningStarV · Joined: 10 Mar 2008 Posts: 12

2 Ghitu Encampment
1 Keldon Megaliths
19 Mountain

4 Tattermunge Maniac
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Spark Elemental
4 Keldon Marauders
4 Boggart Ram-Gang
3 Magus of the Moon

4 Rift Bolt
4 Incinerate
4 Flame Javelin
3 Shard Volley

Sideboard
1 Magus of the Moon
4 Sulfurous Blast
3 Everlasting Torment
4 Smash to Smitherines
3 Pithing Needle

magicbmx · Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Posts: 7

alright lets just say i have been playing rdw or as i call it as a joke rdl. red deck loses lol. first of all i play 21 land and its never been a problem. second in your build knight garg scroll guy and elemental are all trash and should never see the deck ever. third your burn is close but browbeat is trash and so is becon. here is what i play

land
4 mutavualt
2 keldon megaloth
15 mountain

dudes
4 mogg fanatics
4 tatermage
4 keldon marauders
4 ram gang
4 of the 4/4 for 3 guy

spells
4 shock
4 incenterate
4 rift bolt
4 flame javilane
3 shard volley

board
3 magus of the moon
3 dragon claw
3 smash to smitherines
3 everlasting torment
3 sulforuos blast

TugaChampion · Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 351

ghitu is really good. Those that say it's bad should just quit magic. You can't play mutavault because of javelin and ram-gang. Here's a good list (numbers might not be perfect but it's pretty much close to the best):

4 flame javelin
4 incinerate
4 rift bolt
3 lash out
3 sulfurous blast
3 shard volley
4 Tattermunge Maniac
4 mogg fanatic
4 Keldon Marauders
4 Boggart Ram-Gang
4 Ghitu Encampment
19 mountain

SB:
3 Magus of the Moon
4 Cryoclasm
1 Sulfurous Blast
4 Everlasting Torment
3 Dragon's Claw/bottle gnomes

skilla420 · Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Posts: 258

the only reasons I'm not a fan of the encampment is it comes into play tapped (obv) and it costs 2 for a 2/1 f.s.. Treetop is good because you get a more powerful creature. Plus I think I am going to need the extra 2 for more burn, don't you think?

skilla420 · Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Posts: 258

should I consider spinerock knoll in there?

Dameykins · Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Posts: 35

my ideas for RDW:

tatternmunge=4. a 2/1 first turn, sounds great to me

Muta>Ghitu= no tap, 2/2 for 1

magus of the moon= 2 main deck, 2 SB

Browbeat= not bad. maybe not a 4 off. maybe 2-3. 5 dmg or 3 cards for 3 mana sounds good.

21-22 mana-optimal

Pyroclasm- main deck and SB

Sulfuric blast= SB

MUST: Guttural

sulfur elemental, scroll, augur= trash.