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thisisit50
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
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 Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: Storm Crazy |
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Basically the deck revolves around grinning ignus, Playing ignus then bouncing and playing ignus and playing a storm card,
Or using ignus to pump up Goliath then tossing it with Stoutarm
// Lands
1 [LRW] Vivid Crag
1 [LRW] Vivid Meadow
4 [LRW] Ancient Amphitheater
16 [LRW] Mountain (4)
// Creatures
2 [TSP] Coal Stoker
2 [LRW] Brion Stoutarm
4 [PLC] Simian Spirit Guide
4 [FUT] Grinning Ignus
4 [LRW] Soulbright Flamekin
2 [LRW] Hamletback Goliath
4 [CS] Thermopod
// Spells
4 [TSP] Empty the Warrens
4 [FUT] Haze of Rage
4 [TSP] Ignite Memories
4 [TSP] Paradise Plume
// Sideboard
SB: 3 [MOR] Door of Destinies
SB: 4 [TSP] Grapeshot
SB: 4 [CS] Rite of Flame
SB: 4 [TSP] Ground Rift |
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skilla420
Joined: 29 Apr 2008
Posts: 258
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:38 am Post subject: |
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Your deck would fall flat on its face vs. counters, because your spell gets countered, doesn't add for storm, and then you exhausted mana for no reason.
Any red deck needs rites of flame, especially yours. It gives you one free mana, and then some depending on how many there are in your graveyard. Also, sideboard guttural response - it rips counters apart-, magus of the moon, pyroclasm, and take a look at rift bolt.
Plus there are too many expensive creatures in your deck, mana wise and not enough useful spells. Your spells leave you with one mana less than it cost you to play it, when it should end up the other way around. The spirit guide is good for that (i dont know why people dont see his good potential being up to 4 free red mana turn one, and more with rites). |
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ACM
Joined: 03 Jan 2008
Posts: 41
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:48 am Post subject: |
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Actually, storm counts how many spells that have been played, not how many that have resolved, so if a spell of his gets countered, that would add two to the storm count, not 0.
And yes, rite of flames would suit the deck, and manamorphoses are free storm counts. |
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Vedrfolner
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 1061
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| skilla420 wrote: | Your deck would fall flat on its face vs. counters, because your spell gets countered, doesn't add for storm, and then you exhausted mana for no reason.
Any red deck needs rites of flame, especially yours. It gives you one free mana, and then some depending on how many there are in your graveyard. Also, sideboard guttural response - it rips counters apart-, magus of the moon, pyroclasm, and take a look at rift bolt.
Plus there are too many expensive creatures in your deck, mana wise and not enough useful spells. Your spells leave you with one mana less than it cost you to play it, when it should end up the other way around. The spirit guide is good for that (i dont know why people dont see his good potential being up to 4 free red mana turn one, and more with rites). |
Storm>counterspells. See previous post.
Rite of Flames is useless in most red decks. But it works really well with storm.
Guttural Response is not a bad idea.
Simian Spirit Guide does not add to storm count.
Grinning Ignus helps storm count and is a win condition. Same with Coal Stoker. But Thermopod, Hamletback Goliath, Simian Spirit Guide and Soulbright Flamekin are all poor choices for this deck.
4 Storm Entity
4 Mogg Fanatic
3 Chromatic Star
4 Manamorphose
4 Rite of Flame
4 Ponder
4 Ancestral Vision
4 Grapeshot
4 Rift Bolt
4 Empty the Warrens
4 Gemstone Mine
4 Shivan Reef
13 Mountain
What about something like this? |
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Crosis_DaJoo
Joined: 13 May 2008
Posts: 12
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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Why not play pyromancers swath? if you can play grapeshot it is 3 per spell=WIN, and cloudkey set to creature is an infinite storm w/ignus
My list would look like this,
4 Grinning Ignus
4 Rift Bolt
4 Grapeshot
4 Pyromancers Swath
4 Manamorphose
4 Rite of Flame
4 Chromatic Star
4 Cloudkey (Creature)(or in a pinch sorcery)
2 Empty the Warrens
2 Ignite Memories
4 Molten Slagheap
4 Fungal Reaches
16 Mountain |
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skilla420
Joined: 29 Apr 2008
Posts: 258
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| I think we may be onto something within these last few posts. |
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six
Joined: 19 Apr 2008
Posts: 6
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:26 am Post subject: |
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| if you use cloud key + ignus, you need manaforge cinder to funnel into red mana. |
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Crosis_DaJoo
Joined: 13 May 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | if you use cloud key + ignus, you need manaforge cinder to funnel into red mana |
True, My fault.
I just got excited about going 99999236892374789256793850 storm. |
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tulsatrey
Joined: 26 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Even with manaforge cinder you can't go infinite. You can only use that ability 3 times.
I'd rather use those eight slots for something else. Manamorphose, for one. |
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