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Chapin's Seismic Swans


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Chapin's Seismic Swans Deck
Format-breaking
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Good
7%
 7%  [ 2 ]
Decent/Will Be Played
18%
 18%  [ 5 ]
Possibly Played/Not good
40%
 40%  [ 11 ]
God Awful
29%
 29%  [ 8 ]
Total Votes : 27

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gypsy



Joined: 15 Jun 2007
Posts: 811

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

going 2-0 in a mini doesnt mean the deck is good
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Acid_Christ



Joined: 28 Aug 2004
Posts: 462

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnDoe wrote:
http://www.magic-league.com/tournament/info.php?id=42394&view=decks

check out the 2nd place deck


A) 2-0 in a Mini doesn't really determine playability.
B) Look at his matchups. A mono green (small splash of white), and a bad Faerie list.


I think the Swans itself is a good card, but I don't like this combo. An Extirpate (split second), Pithing Needle (assault), or even a Wheel of Sun and Moon shut the deck down. Without the combo, I didn't see the deck do too much. I played a couple matches against it, and the only time I lost was when he was able to combo out early without disruption. Which wasn't that often.
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Shooter



Joined: 11 Mar 2005
Posts: 65

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1st: the mana is terrible,the deck just dies to faeries (best and most played deck) and it's too slow vs. MRA.

2nd: is it just me or ALL lists from that mini suck? =[
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XSquad



Joined: 21 Aug 2007
Posts: 21

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A swan deck potentially has one huge tech option vs RDW: Pariah on swans. Think about it, RDW has no hard removal and burn spells will end up milling them to death. But, I don't see swans doing well against faeries unless it sticks a pyrohemia on the board.
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Acid_Christ



Joined: 28 Aug 2004
Posts: 462

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

XSquad wrote:
A swan deck potentially has one huge tech option vs RDW: Pariah on swans. Think about it, RDW has no hard removal and burn spells will end up milling them to death. But, I don't see swans doing well against faeries unless it sticks a pyrohemia on the board.


Everlasting Torment (black or red) stops the Swans.
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SaTiVa



Joined: 09 Jun 2005
Posts: 194

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conkisstador wrote:
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as far as resilient to hate... it is very much so. if u have the combo set up its almost impossible to disrupt because u can respond to their crypt/bounce/whatever by discarding another land and dredging from there.

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cough try rsping to an extripate on dakmor salvage >.<
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floreskiller



Joined: 06 Feb 2008
Posts: 96

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My friend and I tested this deck for about a day on MWS. I think our combined record was somewhere around 3-18.
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kfcman



Joined: 16 Sep 2006
Posts: 665

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acid_Christ wrote:
XSquad wrote:
A swan deck potentially has one huge tech option vs RDW: Pariah on swans. Think about it, RDW has no hard removal and burn spells will end up milling them to death. But, I don't see swans doing well against faeries unless it sticks a pyrohemia on the board.


Everlasting Torment (black or red) stops the Swans.


True, but i don't think anyone, at all, will be boarding for this deck, and the torment isnt a fantastic board card for other decks anyway.
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 1209

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

extirpate is an excellent sb option vs many decks. Esp reveillark.
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Peligrad



Joined: 05 May 2008
Posts: 13

PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:48 am    Post subject: turn to mist? Reply with quote

It seems that if agro and creature control is the biggest issue for the deck "Turn to mist" would be a no brainer for the deck. blink attacking creatures and blink the swans to safety...of course you still have no answer for sudden death...but one card in the whole format with ability to screw you over is not a deck breaker...as far as the other potential things that could screw you...you have pithing needle...halo...oblivion ring...that enchantment that gives a player shroud...but there is a w/g kill all artifacts and enchantments card out there...and there are plenty of ways to get seismic assault back in this format...or better yet disenchant?. IMO wheel of sun and moon has potential to be main deck material not side board. Once the swans, seismic, and wheel are on the table you have the ability to tutor infinitely times for infinitely many things. of course you could argue that this further dilutes an already questionably consistent deck...
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Crosis_DaJoo



Joined: 13 May 2008
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Extripate Reply with quote

Quote:
cough try rsping to an extripate on dakmor salvage >.<
You can't extripate Dakmoor Salvage, NONLAND
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Shagster



Joined: 17 Apr 2008
Posts: 21

PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:51 am    Post subject: Re: Extripate Reply with quote

Crosis_DaJoo wrote:
Quote:
cough try rsping to an extripate on dakmor salvage >.<
You can't extripate Dakmoor Salvage, NONLAND



Reading = Tech!!! It actually says "choose a card other than a basic land."
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