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Mono Black Basal Traitor



 
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blitzer2k7



Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Posts: 17

PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:16 pm    Post subject: Mono Black Basal Traitor Reply with quote

Okay so Ive decided to try making another deck and to see what everyone thinks of it so here goes..

Main Deck
21 Swamp
2 Phthisis
2 Conspiracy
3 Liliana Vess
3 Diabolic Tutor
3 Damnation
3 Cruel Edict
3 Consume Spirit
4 Whetwheel
4 Basal Sliver
4 Nether Traitor
4 Mind Stone
4 Hivestone
Side Board
SB: 1 Cruel Edict
SB: 1 Damnation
SB: 1 Diabolic Tutor
SB: 1 Liliana Vess
SB: 2 Conspiracy
SB: 2 Phthisis
SB: 3 Frenzy Sliver
SB: 4 Extirpate
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TekNique



Joined: 19 Mar 2008
Posts: 152

PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what is it sopposed to do? There is some evasion, discard, removal and you can make extra mana with your creatures but how do you expect to win?
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Spyx



Joined: 31 Oct 2004
Posts: 821

PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He can get endless mana with hivestone + basal sliver + nether traitor
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TekNique



Joined: 19 Mar 2008
Posts: 152

PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so he only has 1 winning combo with consume spirit? why doesn't he just add profane command to give him 4 more options
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SaTiVa



Joined: 09 Jun 2005
Posts: 190

PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TekNique wrote:
so he only has 1 winning combo with consume spirit? why doesn't he just add profane command to give him 4 more options

Whettwheel + infinite mana seems good

note this is obviously a fun deck not a competitive one... but it should be able to steal some games from the latter to make it FNM worth
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blitzer2k7



Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Posts: 17

PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks...Im glad you think it will do well at FNM..I plan on doing just that exactly just to see how well it does competitively..in all honesty I dont expect it to do very well against a lot of the mainstream tier 1 and 2 decks..but it certainly is fun...and as it was pointed out earlier I have two win conditions, Whetwheel to mill them to death and consume spirit to deal lethal. Although I am thinking of cutting a few cards to add profane command...
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 1113

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drop Phthisis and Conspiracy (as well as lowering the whetwheel count - if not taking them out entirely) for more good cards. Profane Command, Swamp, nameless inversion, tendrils of corruption, more tutors.
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Ggerg



Joined: 04 Sep 2005
Posts: 333

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

um....maybe i'm missing something, but dont u have to have two nether traitors to win too?
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Stucco



Joined: 14 Mar 2005
Posts: 535

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blitzer2k7 wrote:
thanks...Im glad you think it will do well at FNM..I plan on doing just that exactly just to see how well it does competitively..in all honesty I dont expect it to do very well against a lot of the mainstream tier 1 and 2 decks..but it certainly is fun...and as it was pointed out earlier I have two win conditions, Whetwheel to mill them to death and consume spirit to deal lethal. Although I am thinking of cutting a few cards to add profane command...


I think you should -2 Spirit and +2 Command. This way, you can bring back back your Basil Sliver and/or deal lethal.

It seems like quite the fun deck. Best of luck at your FNM.
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gypsy



Joined: 15 Jun 2007
Posts: 706

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ggerg wrote:
um....maybe i'm missing something, but dont u have to have two nether traitors to win too?



yes this combo is very bad i dont see how its good.
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blitzer2k7



Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Posts: 17

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I havent said that this was going to be the final deck..but yes it does need two nether traitors to go off infinite. Hence the reason why there are tutors and Vess. And yes I have been toying with dropping the whetwheel count down to two for either Vess and tutor or spot creature removal. And yes I am thinking of dropping phthisis because of its expensive mana cost..the reason conspiracy is in there is to give me another way to make traitor a sliver in case my hivestone gets destroyed, countered, or removed.
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