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drove of elves



 
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chriscone



Joined: 26 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:39 pm    Post subject: drove of elves Reply with quote

only way i can think of to deal with this card is to counter it?. i'm not sure if the non targeting ability would prevent you from countering it ?

can someone show me the section of rules dealing with this?
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thedarkness



Joined: 13 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd worry more about Troll Ascetic. That card is pretty bad.
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Jon_Ma



Joined: 29 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you deal with it by killing all the other elves
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chriscone



Joined: 26 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mojo_jojo wrote:
you deal with it by killing all the other elves



i'm not sure if lands count as green...but saprolings would be another green perm..
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Ggerg



Joined: 04 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

um, wrath of god much?
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chriscone



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ggerg wrote:
um, wrath of god much?



i guess godhead of awe would be similar if you could somehow get a -1 -1 counter on the elf...
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thedarkness



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't seem to recall him saying "Godhead of Awe."
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trueeevil



Joined: 08 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lands have no color, so its terrible.
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Hardtrack



Joined: 10 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lands are colourless and it's non-targetting ability only works in play, so you can counter it just fine.
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ILikeBananas



Joined: 01 Aug 2006
Posts: 145

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mojo_jojo wrote:
you deal with it by killing all the other elves


Drove of elves is green itself so killing all other elves will still leave it as a 1/1.

Yes you can counter it. All cards can be countered unless stated otherwise, or have split second.

There are many ways to deal with it. Combat damage? Non-targeted damage spells? Make opponent sacrifice? Mass removal?
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thedarkness



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Split Second cards can be countered, but only by one card that I'm aware of (in type 2, there's a bunch outside of type 2).

Counterbalance! It sucks in standard! Woo!
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pikprutogpat



Joined: 09 Sep 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I've understood, Drove of Elves is affected by all green PERMANENTS and not only elves.

It says:

Drove of Elves's power and toughness are each equal to the number of green permanents you control.


The official rulebook says that permanents are everything in play (creature, land, artifact, and so on).

this means that it's not only affected by elves, but lands and everything else in play aswell - as long as it's green.

Let's say I have 4 Forest Lands, 1 Drove of Elves, and 2 Elve Warrior Tokens.

4+1+2=7

So it's a 7/7


If it was only affected by other Elves (wich the card says it isn't) it would only be a 3/3



Am I misunderstanding something, or is this card the ultimaaaate?
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Hardtrack



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are missing was what pointed out several times: lands have no colour. You can have twenty forests in play, but if your only other permanent is the Drove of Elves, it's just a 1/1.

Since it's a very old post, already drifting off-topic and quite adequately answered back in the day, I'm closing this.
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