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only-3



Joined: 25 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:52 pm    Post subject: Making the big return Reply with quote

Ok so I've been out of the game for about two years now and my amazing Ravnica deck is not legal anymore I guess, so I need a new deck. Now at the moment I don't have the time to sit down and look at all the new cards or anything, I've got a nice Coldsnap deck don't know if thats still legal but I want to get into the new sets, don't know what they're called yet. So can someone help me out, I like green/white or green, low-cost creatures that still pack a punch, maybe a couple high cost creatures if I have to, I like the idea of life gain but its not needed. So if you can post your best green/white or green decks here or send me an email, go.raiders13@gmail.com, I can make some mods if I need to, I'm not on a budget so I'll probably by the cards single not packs or anything, just because I'm some sort of noob at the moment doesn't mean I want you to trick me into buying some sucky preconstructed deck BS!

Also this is my first post here on this site so if I broke any rules or anything let me know so I don't make anymore mistakes.
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only-3



Joined: 25 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh yeah something new planeswalker, explain.
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Thorns



Joined: 16 Aug 2006
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Location: Rath

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=magic/rules/planeswalkers

That's all you need to know about the planeswalker card type.

The meta is quite different, make a few decks and test the field, just like everyone else, what can I say.[/url]
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Boba383



Joined: 26 Sep 2005
Posts: 67

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha o and if u like undercosted creatures that pack a punch guess what we've got a new kid on the block....and its name is Tarmogoyf Rolling Eyes but ya the format has definetely changed...theres RG Tarmoburn, Rogues, Faeries and all kinds of other decks.
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at the deck section here. The top 3,4 decks of a tournament should be good.
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only-3



Joined: 25 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hows this?

I didn't see much in the usual types i like.

Don't have a sideboard so if you have any recomendations

Section: Lands (24 cards)

4 x Auntie's Hovel
4 x Graven Cairns
8 x Mountain
8 x Swamp

Section: Creatures (28 cards)

2 x Boggart Harbinger
2 x Earwig Squad
4 x Frogtosser Banneret
4 x Knucklebone Witch
2 x Lightning Crafter
4 x Mad Auntie
4 x Mogg Fanatic
2 x Siege-Gang Commander
2 x Taurean Mauler
2 x Wort, Boggart Auntie

Section: Other spells (12 cards)

2 x Boggart Shenanigans
2 x Fodder Launch
4 x Incinerate
4 x Tarfire
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Vedrfolner



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harbinger costs 3. There are lots of other 3cc cards in BR goblins that are way better. Maybe more Rogues for Earwig Squad instead.
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only-3



Joined: 25 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand why I would need to cut Harbinger to get extra rogues for Earwig Squad all my creatures are goblins and the prowl text clearly states Goblin or Rogue so that doesn't make sense. With Harbinger in my deck I can get any card in my deck besides incinerate so why is this bad. So please explain what your trying to say because it makes no sense at all. I think the only thing I'm lacking is some Boggart Birth Rites but when I have Wort out its like a continuous birth rite plus a 3/3 with fear. Vedrfolner please explain yourself. Does anyone that knows what they are talking about have any feedback for me.
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SOTD wrote:
I don't understand why I would need to cut Harbinger to get extra rogues for Earwig Squad all my creatures are goblins and the prowl text clearly states Goblin or Rogue so that doesn't make sense. With Harbinger in my deck I can get any card in my deck besides incinerate so why is this bad. So please explain what your trying to say because it makes no sense at all. I think the only thing I'm lacking is some Boggart Birth Rites but when I have Wort out its like a continuous birth rite plus a 3/3 with fear. Vedrfolner please explain yourself. Does anyone that knows what they are talking about have any feedback for me.


You're right about the Prowl rules. My bad. In any case, Harbinger isn't a bad card. It does what you think it does and that is fine. There are just that many other 3cc (and 4/2cc) goblins available that are better.

Mogg War-Marshall
Mudbutton Torchrunner
more Earwig Squad
more SGC
more Wort
more Mauler
Greater Gargadon (not a goblin, but should be in the deck)
Marsh Flitter

The bottom point is: even though Harbinger gets you any card you want in the deck, it does so with a turn's delay and with a 2/1 body for 3 mana. You cannot play it if you need another mana the next turn. You shouldn't play it if you are on the defense.
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only-3



Joined: 25 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thankyou for your feedback and sorry I was rude in my last reply. I would like to try Greater Gargadon but my question on that is if I sacrifice a fanatic or another goblin for the siege-gang commander can I use the effects of the cards and remove a counter from greater gargadon.
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no.

Everything before the colon in an activated ability is a cost. The cost needs to be paid for the ability to be put on stack.

When you sacrifice Fanatic, the creature is gone. You cannot respond to that. The same goes for Gargadon.

So you can Trickbind the gargadon's ability so that it doesn't get to remove a counter, but the creature is already gone by then.

If you have a Grave Pact in play, and sacrifice Mogg Fanatic targeting one of two Birds of Paradise controlled by the opponent, Grave Pact triggers and will go on stack on top of Fanatic's ability. The opponent may sacrifice the targeted creature if he wants to, and the other one lives.
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only-3



Joined: 25 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This deck took first at FNM last night.

by the way
do bannerets reduce prowl costs
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AznSilly



Joined: 02 Sep 2006
Posts: 16

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes they do reduce prowl costs
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only-3



Joined: 25 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok so heres where I am at right now

24 land
4x Graven Cairns
4x Auntie's Hovel
9x Mountain
7x Swamp

27 Creatures
4x Knucklebone Witch
4x Mogg Fanatic
4x Mogg War Marshal
3x Frogtosser Banneret
3x Mad Auntie
2x Boggart Harbinger
2x Earwig Squad
2x Siege-Gang Commander
2x Wort, Boggart Auntie
1x Lightning Crafter

10 Other
4x Incinerate
4x Tarfire
2x Fodder Launch
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

-3 Frogtosser Banneret
-2 Boggart Harbinger

+1 Mad Auntie
+1 Earwig Squad
+1 Siege-Gang Commander
+1 Wort, Boggart Auntie
+1 Lightning Crafter
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