Are you a netdecker or a rogue decker?

ElvishGod · Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 2924

I want to know the balance of power on ML!

Netdecker - A person who uses the current popular decks.
Rogue decker - A person who comes up with their own decks.
Hardcore Netdecker - A person who copies exact decks or who is totally dependant on the popular decks.
Hardcore Rogue decker - ElvishGod.

I'd like you to post saying what you voted...

Known Netdeckers
Known Rogue deckers
Jack21221
Known Hard-Core Netdeckers
WildCard
MW|Core
Known Had-Core Rogue deckers
ElvishGod
Jester2
Andromedea
FiReBLT
Meat128
Bikamonki
Known Both Netdecker and Rogue deckers
Dragon_Lady
Bejeezus
ant900
GunCon

Andromedea · Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 378

Vote: Hardcore Roguedecker

I may not win alot of game.. but every deck i use is my own. I post a good amount of them on the T2 forum.

Baryonyx · Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 1020 Location: Illinois

Net Deckers... Well they suck and have no tallent

I can prove im a rougedecker by saying i played R/W burn at states. Shure it didnt do great but it was one in my own Very Happy

Bejeezus · Joined: 12 Dec 2004 Posts: 1712 Location: Right Here

exiledragon · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 65

GunCon · Joined: 17 Aug 2005 Posts: 29

I'm both a Net-decker and a Rogue-decker.

Baryonyx · Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 1020 Location: Illinois

Actually i wrote the name as Charazard cause its red, burn and has char

JUst somthing my friends and i thought up

Also, netdeckers can learn to play deck from those who made the deck copy the tequnique and win tourniments. Didnt develope the deck or the tequnique so therefore no talent,

exiledragon · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 65

Baryonyx · Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 1020 Location: Illinois

Im sorry but i dont see the logic in that statment. All you have to do with a netdeck is read a few protour recaps and learn all the little tricks. WIth a rougedeck, you have to develope the tricks and learn when and wether to use them.

exiledragon · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 65

Like all the little secrets and tricks of burn?

ant900 · Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 2476 Location: somewhere

im both

personally i think there is skill in netdecking as long as you personalize the deck to your meta, heck if the deck you netdecked it good for your meta is ok as long as you know how to play it

Shepherd · Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 387

I'm very much a rouge deck player, since I believe one must know how decks work if he intends to do well with them. Until I reach that stage, I can forget about netdecking...

Also, those decks tend to be boring (for me, anyway) and have the disadvantage of being prepared against...

Stucco · Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 541

I will fool around with net decks so I know how they work. But I only competitively play rogue decks.

Bikamonki · Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 15

First of all, I can help but grim every time someone is rude on chats or boards. I do so because it so funny how some can be virtual braves with such ease when in real life a different song plays in their lives.

I am a hardcore rogue deck builder, known as such in my local group and probably the only person who played highlander on last regionals and made a better record than most players I know. That being said, on with the dilemma.

The argument on this matter is old, boring and plain pointless. MTG is a rogue game by definition: hundreds of game pieces assembled in a myriad of combinations. That is the whole point of the game: to build your own deck. But there is also competitive MTG and that is a whole different ball game. In this case the objective is to win, period. So net-deckers are actually smarter and more efficient in choosing tested and strong decks that have a better chance to win. But that doesn’t mean that one rogue element can take a tournament by surprise. It just means the chances are dimmer.

The truth of it all is that while there are hundreds of playable decks at any moment in T2, probably tens of good ones, there will only be a few that are really good. The limitation is on the cards themselves. We all want to tweak the Auratouched Mage to flick it a few times in many cool ways but nothing saves it from a well timed Putrefy (and we better have a survival kit until we build the 6cc). But the same Putrefy is almost useless against the Blinking Scarab and he only costs 4.

With time, the good rogue decks will be made public by winning some event and become net decks. I know that the Cloudstone Curio with Kobolds is a 2 card combo engine ready to be exploited. Many other players will see that sooner or later. One of them can take such deck to a Vintage event and win with it: a new net deck will be born.

Other times, you can build a deck on your own that turns out to be very good but unavoidably end framed as some known archetype (again, here is the limitation of colors and game strategies). Case example, yesterday I won my local T2 tourney with a BG deck with Kokushos, Kagemaros and Kodamas (I call it KoKoKa) and people kept saying how good my ROCK deck was. So BG with lots of removal, graveyard recursion and big creatures will always be The Rock.

To conclude I leave you with some of my MTG mantras:

1. Respect your opponents choice and be honest to your own desires: net deck if you want to win, rogue deck if you want to invent.
2. Learn the rules! Which is a thousand times more important than deck building and it will actually make you a better player.
3. Accept luck, net decks do get mana screwed and lose to a rogue deck. Rogue decks will get unlucky more often though.
4. The path to victory is knowing the meta-game.
Example: Name 8 possible ways to kill Kodama of the North Tree in T2:
Cranial Extract it (the best one)
WOG (almost likely to kill it)
Final Judgement (not as good as WOG but will work)
Block it (somehow a good option)
Cruel Edict (circumstantial)
Double Pyroclasm (the 15% chances realm)
Make opponent discard it (not so good, you can actually help him bring it to play sooner)
8 mana Brightflame targeted to another green creature (the 10% chances realm)

So I made a deck that runs 3 of these guys, Time of Need and Zombify. Kodama won me 80% of the games. Not because I did not run into WOG’s and Cranials, but because I removed the WOG’s and Cranials first, or I Zombified it after they blocked it or destroyed it.

Meat128 · Joined: 04 Feb 2005 Posts: 30

i am def. a hardcore rogue deckbuilder... seeing as how the decks i play right now are a r/w Burning Weenie deck, a u/b megrim deck, and working on a way to break warp world in half (just for fun) have fun playing ur style and hope ur deck makes top 8 some where...