spell fizzle & targets, Shapesharer, and Mirror Entity :

sacrededge · Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 9

sorry if this sounds kinda noobish.. Sad

#1. when your burn spell's (ea Spitting Earth) target vanishes somehow (ea Momentary Blink, or Unsummon maybe),
[A] does your spell "fizzle" or
[B] do you choose another valid target?
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#2 does Shapesharer (Lorwyn) become an exact copy of its target..? (copies all abilities of target, additional power/toughness from other spells like GiantGrowth, etc.)

#3 why can't my Mirror Entity's (Lorwyn) ability, X set to 1, revive my other attacking creatures after being blocked and applying combat damage?

KeySam · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 534

I am no judge but i can answer your questions.

1. The spell "fizzles"(gets countered) on resolution since you dont have a legal target.

2. Yes it does.

3. I am not sure what you mean but, if you use mirror entities ability for 1 all your creatures get 1/1, so if a creature had lets say 2 damages on it and had 3 thoughness it would die. (the damage doesnt fall of because the power/thoughness changed) If lethal damage is on a creatures it dies anyway.

Hope i could help.

Once again i am not a judge

Hardtrack · Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 291

1) You never get to pick new targets unless a spell specifically says so.

2) Well, yes and no. It becomes an exact copy of the card. It copies everything from name down to expansion symbol. It does not copy any additional effects, like spells you played on it or counters or anything like that. You get a copy of the base creature (basically, what is printed on the card in 99% of the cases).

3) Damage does not reduce toughness. And messing with the toughness of a creature does not remove any damage it might have. You can play the ability of Mirror Entity as often as you want, but it won't do anything to the damage already on the creature.

ILikeBananas · Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 141

1. Targets are chosen when you play the spell. If it says "When it comes into play", then you choose the the target AFTER the spell resolves (like oblivion ring). So if you shock a mogg fanatic, then in response, the player can sac the goblin to deal 1 to you. The shock will fizzle. If you play oblivion ring and it doesn't get countered, and you choose a mogg fanatic, then the opponent can sac the golbin in response. The Oblivion ring will NOT fizzle. It'll just be in play having nothing removed.

3. Damage stays on the creature until end of turn. So let say you have a 6/6 in play. Opponent plays a shock on it on upkeep, a tarfire on it main phase, blocks a 1/1 in combat. Then it now has 5 damage on it as of the combat damage step. If someone plays a nameless inversion on it, it'll be a 9/3 with 5 damage on it and therefore will die. If someone deals 1 more damage to it somehow, it'll also die.

JeZeus · Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 113

If the goblin is sac'd in that situation before Oblivion ring comes into play(i.e inresponse to you playing o-ring I do sac gobo), you can choose a new target for the ring. Being as the ring was never in play, and you therefore have not picked a target. Since the ring has to be in play first.

Hardtrack · Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 291

gypsy · Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 834

i was joking im not that dumb

Lenin · Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 44

I'm not a judge but:

1.: when opponent blinks creature just act like "erm did I say ...?? I meand i target..." so you can leagally "change" the target.

2.: who cares? noone plays this dumb card anyway.

3.:I have a conterquestion: whats the difference between a duck?

sacrededge · Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 9

yay! i kinda get it now, haha. much thanks for quick replies Very Happy

Hardtrack · Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 291

McRishel42 · Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 25

Why are you calling people lying piece of shits just because they "tried"(I agree not successfully but still) to be funny while answering the question. It's not like you were the first post to answer the question anyway, so to you and everyone who posted after the first guy answered his questions completely correctly....why even bother? It doesn't make you look more intelligent answering questions that were already answered. Then again....gypsy is a douche, I do have to agree with that. Surprised

Trotsky1 · Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 767

Hardtrack is the rules authority of ml forums his answers are always complete and accurate you'd be well advised to ignore any answer not posted by him or ronjeremyjunior.

LoneWulf · Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 148