Question on Burn Deck Wins

just2fierce · Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 31

Why doesn't the burn deck play Bob? Everyone is always talking about it falling just short all the time simply because you don't have enough cards in hand to finish the job.......so here's what my friend has been playtesting and plans on taking to PTQ next weekend....thoughts and opinions are wanted.....

Satanic Burn

Creatures[8]
4 Dark Confidant
4 Grim Lavamancer

Burn[26]
4 Rift Bolt
4 Incinerate
4 Shard Volley
4 Lava Spike
4 Shrapnel Blast
2 Chain of Plasma
4 Magma Jet

Enchantment [5]
2 Genju of the Spires
3 Sulferic Vortex

land [21]
4 Bloodstained Mire
1 Blood Crypt
1 Swamp
4 Great Furnace
3 Vault of Whispers
6 Mountain
2 Barbarian Ring

Sideboard [15]
4 Shattering Spree
2 Pithing Needle
3 Ensnaring Bridge
4 Tormod's Crypt
2 Dragon's Claw

ebbitten · Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 39

decent idea, but you really don't want to play genju, you do want to play mogg fanatic (IMO atleast) eh looks decent.

gypsy · Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 432

why did u take out the best card in the deck

just2fierce · Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 31

best card in the deck? you must be talking about the marauders or the nexus, I presume..... Marauders almost always do 5 but he just hates the card.....Nexus he doesn't have but he does have genju which has been surprisingly good against anything not playing MR. Fantastic......It's his deck he just told me find out what everyone else said and if there was any way to improve it but he definately wants to keep the black cards in!

flynnT · Joined: 28 Feb 2006 Posts: 11

Bob may be good, but you just can't cut Spark Elemental, Keldon Marauders AND Mogg Fanatic.

Actually, when you drop Confidant, your Opponent will always have some removal for him due to the lack of other creatures in that deck. He's dead.

Spyx · Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 803

If you want to play confidant you need to play a more creature heavy deck, similar to satanic sligh in T2 when ravnica was still legal.

FiReBLT · Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 159

I don't know if you're familiar with the concept of virtual card advantage. Decks that run very few creatures theoretically gain some card advantage from the useless removal spells their opponents draw.

The flip side of this is that any creatures you DO play are almost certainly dead straight away. So by taking out a lot of the creatures (proportinally) and putting in a card that is both pretty easy to kill and a massive target, you're slowing down your clock and you're going to run out of steam even faster...

Avata · Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 356

RDarkfire · Joined: 19 Sep 2004 Posts: 2

Hmm, how about this?

Name Qty
Bloodstained Mire 4
Browbeat 3
Dark Confidant 4
Great Furnace 4
Grim Lavamancer 4
Incinerate 4
Keldon Marauders 4
Magma Jet 4
Mogg Fanatic 4
Mountain 9
Shard Volley 4
Shrapnel Blast 4
Spark Elemental 4
Swamp 1
Vault of Whispers 3
Lands: 21, Spells: 19, Crt: 20 60

More targets for removal so that they don't focus only on Confidant. Also I've always loved Browbeat.

trueeevil · Joined: 08 Dec 2007 Posts: 84

I don't see the targets.

Spyx · Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 803

its still only going to be confidant and lavamancer...the others will almost never be targeted.

BigShow · Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 1272 Location: Igloo town

please take out grim, too slow for this deck

just2fierce · Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 31

He Played alot last night and made these changes

Satanic Sligh

Creatures[14]
4 Dark Confidant
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Keldon Marauders
4 Grim Lavamancer

Burn[20]
4 Rift Bolt
4 Shard Volley
4 Lava Spike
4 Shrapnel Blast
4 Magma Jet

Enchantment [3]
3 Sulferic Vortex

land [21]
4 Bloodstained Mire
1 Blood Crypt
1 Swamp
4 Great Furnace
3 Vault of Whispers
4 Mountain
2 Blinkmoth Nexus
2 Barbarian Ring

Sideboard [15]
4 Shattering Spree
2 Pithing Needle
3 Ensnaring Bridge
4 Tormod's Crypt
2 Dragon's Claw

RDarkfire · Joined: 19 Sep 2004 Posts: 2

Hmm you guys have a point, the others are not really much worth targetting.

Although I do like the idea of this deck.

How about Slith Firewalker? That was always a staple back in the days of Tangle Wire, don't see why it wouldn't work now (?)

From my previous post --

Out -- Incinerate, Spark Elemental
In -- Slith Firewalker, Lava Blister

It seems like if you can get to play Lava Blister on turn 2 or 3 against ANY 1.x deck, you've just instantly swung for 30% of your opponent's life total...