Burrenton Forge-Tender

Tritemio · Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 58

Can I Sacrifice Burrenton Forge-Tender to prevent damage from Flame-Kin Zealot even if it isn't actually into play?

Hardtrack · Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 505

When something changes zones it becomes a new object. So pointing to it as a source when it is in the graveyard will not do anything to it once it is in play. But why not wait till it's in play?

Tritemio · Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 58

Can I Choose nothing?

I must sac her before Flame-Kin coming into play, becouse he never come alone....

Conkisstador · Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 400

if you're asking if you can prevent the 1 from every zombie that came from Zealot... no way.

why would zealot leave play?

zealot is red and if there is a source of damage on the stack from it... yes you can prevent it.

mufl0n · Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 61

wow
i didnt really want to post something but i think the critical mass of stupidity was reached
the zealot is in the graveyard,along with his bridgebuddies and when the dread return hits i dont think he would like 3020203203020302033002001203012030501032030 zombie tokens to come into play

Tritemio · Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 58

This is a "Yes, U can" or a "No, U don't"

Delicious · Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 818

if i think you are playing agianst dredge, then i think this might be of some use

when their first big spell goes off to bring some zombies into play, just sac it.

Bridge goes bye bye

Conkisstador · Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 400

tritemio, this isnt a "yes you can, no you cant" question since there's many pieces missing. explain the situation more fully and we can evaluate from there.

in general- YES you can prevent damage from any source even if its not in play... aka preventing spell dmg (the spell isnt in play)

...but i don't think it's the answer you're [actually] looking for...

TugaChampion · Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 566

I guess he just wants a card that works against dredge, goblins and Rg deck to some degree.

Conkisstador · Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 400

yes but the question itself doesn't imply anything... basically the only way his question could work is if combat dmg goes on the stack, tritemio sacrifices burrenton to prevent dmg, and then opponent kills flamekin so that "it's nt in play"

basically a impossible situation

so he needs to clarify exactly what he's looking for.

Daveslusher · Joined: 05 Nov 2006 Posts: 202

it's acutally quite techy.
In resp to dread returning flamekin zleaot
i'll sac my forgetender to prevent it's damage and remove your bridges.. so basicly they're asking can i sac forgetender ins resp to my opp dread returning Flamekin Zealot and prevent the zealots damage.

Boba383 · Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 70

haha not much good it would do u at this point....chances r ur not going to b killed by the Flame-kin zealot its the zombies.

i think you could just sac the forge-tender before nything good happens for dredge (you kno before they get a bunch of tokens) but ur not going to b preventing the zealot's damage (though you shouldnt really have to worry about the 2 damage you'll take from it...haha well in most cases you wont)

to answer your specific question, no you cannot sacrifice Forge-Tender to prevent damage from Flame-Kin Zealot if the Zealot is in the graveyard, but you can sacrifice it to prevent the tokens from ever entering play (the ability however will fizzle)

LoneWulf · Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 190

Just gotta love half-asked, vague as hell questions.

"Can I Sacrifice Burrenton Forge-Tender to prevent damage from Flame-Kin Zealot even if it isn't actually into play?"

What damage are you preventing? If it's not in play then it can't damage you and you can't choose it as a source of damage. (This of course doesn't include spells on the stack that do direct damage.)
You can sac BF-T without a source of damage to choose from. The ability just won't do anything.

Hardtrack · Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 505

Ah, you just want to remove the Bridge. Why didn't you say so? You can sacrifice the Forge-Tender whenever you like, no matter if there is a red source or not.

Conkisstador · Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 400

actually he still hasn't asked the question....