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shuko + cephalid illusionist



 
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zagorakis7



Joined: 21 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:09 pm    Post subject: shuko + cephalid illusionist Reply with quote

can shuko and illusionist on their own get ur library into your graveyard? if so, how
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Ggerg



Joined: 04 Sep 2005
Posts: 468

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes.
here it is step by step:
1. have both cephalid illusionist and shuko in play
2. Target Illusionist with shuko's 'equip' ability
3. Illusionist's 'becomes the target of a spell or ability put the top three cards of your graveyard into your library' ability triggers, and mills your top 3 cards
4. shuko's ability resolves and shuko becomes equipped to illusionist.
5. target illusionist with shuko again, and again as needed. each time milling your top 3.

the key here is that you can still use shuko's equip ability to target the illusionist even tho it is already 'equipped'
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Vesuvian



Joined: 18 Dec 2005
Posts: 54

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Equip Illusionist with Shuko.
Equip Illusionist with Shuko.
Equip Illusionist with Shuko.
Equip Illusionist with Shuko.
Equip Illusionist with Shuko.
Equip Illusionist with Shuko.
Equip Illusionist with Shuko.
etc.
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NahHolmes



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 591

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everytime Illusionist is targeted it mills the top 3 cards of your library. So you just equip it with Shuko mill 3 cards and repeat until you get tired of it. It usually mills some Necromebas then you Dread Return something game winning.
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Delicious



Joined: 08 Jun 2007
Posts: 548

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

but remember, you need 2 creatures to equip back and forth
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patteb



Joined: 19 May 2007
Posts: 8

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

delicious wrote:
but remember, you need 2 creatures to equip back and forth


Ggerg wrote:
[...]
the key here is that you can still use shuko's equip ability to target the illusionist even tho it is already 'equipped'


now im confused
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Jacois



Joined: 05 Sep 2004
Posts: 477

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delicious = Wrong

Ggreg = Correct

Go to Judges4you to confirm so you feel better about it.
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gypsy



Joined: 15 Jun 2007
Posts: 903

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you dont need 2 creatures if u did the combo would be terrible, but u need 2 creatures if u use lightning greaves to try and equip.
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guysmiley



Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NahHolmes wrote:
Everytime Illusionist is targeted it mills the top 3 cards of your library. So you just equip it with Shuko mill 3 cards and repeat until you get tired of it.


Technically you only need to show the combo three times, then choose number between and one and infinity, or in this case, when your library is in your graveyard.

Ggerg wrote:
yes.
here it is step by step:
1. have both cephalid illusionist and shuko in play
2. Target Illusionist with shuko's 'equip' ability
3. Illusionist's 'becomes the target of a spell or ability put the top three cards of your graveyard into your library' ability triggers, and mills your top 3 cards
4. shuko's ability resolves and shuko becomes equipped to illusionist.
5. target illusionist with shuko again, and again as needed. each time milling your top 3.

the key here is that you can still use shuko's equip ability to target the illusionist even tho it is already 'equipped'


This is correct.

delicious wrote:
but remember, you need 2 creatures to equip back and forth


This is not.
Unless, of course, you want to equip Shuko between 2 Cephalid Illusionsists. Wink
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