Must Own Cards In Extended

shadowmancer · Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 8

If (and only IF) i have just started magic (witch i have not) what other cards such as wrath of god would do me lots of good to own (even commons and uncomons Question

and would serve me well for years to come? (i am short on cards an monny, so i wanta know what cards will make me go the most distance) it is illrelivent of what cards i have, just the cards i should have.

aule · Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 5

If and only if I have just started playing Magic (which I have not), what cards, such as Wrath of God would be good for me to own (including commons and uncommons) and would serve me well for years to come? I am short on cards and money, so I want to know what cards will go the distance. What cards I have is irrelevant, just what cards should I have?

Grammar for the win.

shadowmancer · Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 8

LOL

aldaryn · Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 444

Typically the chase rare cards are chase rares to begin with because they are good in every format, and since formats like Legacy don't shift much, something being automatically good in Legacy means it's going to be good for a while.

If you are just looking at getting a Type II collection that won't be a waste of time after rotations, then here are some good examples-

Tarmogoyf - I know they're pricey but he's -that- good.
Thoughtseize
Mutavault
Wrath/Damnation
Pithing Needle
Extirpate

That's just a few...if you are planning on buying some older cards, you first need to ask yourself if Extended is all you're interested in (it is a pretty common ptq format, so it's a worthwhile interest to have if you want to play competitively) or if you are willing to shell big bucks to play Legacy competitively also. If you are just interested in Extended, then keep in mind that THIS october Extended is rotating with the next block, which means that Invasion, Odyssey, and Onslaught blocks will no longer be extended legal. So for example you may not want to buy Onslaught lands like Flooded Strand if you are not going to play them in Legacy.

That being said, there are quite a few good cards from Mirrodin up that will still be strong in Extended, and it really depends on your play style what cards you should pick up..it's probably not worth it to buy a bunch of aggro cards -and- a bunch of control cards for a huge and expensive format like Extended. But just to name some cards for both off the top of my head...Dark Confidant, Loxodon Hierarch, Gifts Ungiven, Chrome Mox, Ravnica shock-lands, Umezawa's Jitte, ...etc.

styx^ · Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 35

Pernicious Deed
Loxodon Hierarch

if you wanna play something controlish or rockish

curly · Joined: 20 Nov 2007 Posts: 48

we first off not deed it rotates in octorber. if i were you and i noe what you mean to be on a low budget, buy cards for standard(the most played format) and if your into extended by the stapels that arnt going to rotate after october. loxodon heiraches, garroks, ravengers, thoughtseize, muta vault, damnation/wrates, birds, tarmogoyf, shock lands and pain lands, countryside crusher are just a few to name. there are lots of staple commons, uncommons and rares to getso im not going to list them all.

Delicious · Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 425

McRishel42 · Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 25

Why would 3 different blocks rotate out of Extended after 1 block rotates in? I believe you that that is the way it works, I just don't think it should be, since in Standard one set knocks only one out, why would it be different for Extended?

aldaryn · Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 444

Extended is supposed to bigger than Standard in every way, and basically it transitions in the same style, just with blocks instead of sets. When Standard rotates, it loses 3 sets; Extended loses 3 blocks on rotation. But it rotations much less often - Extended is "defined" as 6-8 blocks just like Standard is 4-6 sets. So when whatever after Lorwyn comes out, it'll be 9 blocks, so then it's cut back to its minimum (just like Standard) to 6 blocks. It's quite a wallop, but that's just the way Extended is defined. This is the first substantial rotation since 2005.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=sideboard/news/20020517a

It makes sense; you can't make the pool too big or you'll just end up with more bannings like in Legacy.

shadowmancer · Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 8

Go ahead, even post the cards that are going to rotate out, i would still like to know the staples of the staples. (painlands are good)

stew19 · Joined: 30 Nov 2007 Posts: 39

shadowmancer · Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 8

twndomn · Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Posts: 8

Please don't post false info about extended.

1. Rotation change
Extended no longer rotates every 3 years, it rotates every year now.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dc ... i20080229a

Oct 2008

onsluaght
mirrodin
kamigawa
ravnica
time spiral
lorwyn + shadowmoor
rock

Oct 2009

mirrodin
kamigawa
ravnica
time spiral
lorwyn + shadowmoor
rock
live

Oct 2010

kamigawa
ravnica
time spiral
lorwyn + shadowmoor
rock
live
lights

2. If you must buy anything, BUY FREAKING LANDS. Without lands, u can't do a thing. Fetchland would only last you 1 more year until 2009. Ravnica dual lands are the Truly Must for extended.

Acid_Christ · Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 470

Fetchlands are good in every format you can play em in. ever.

KingofCheese · Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 1

Further to twndomn's post, here's a pretty big list of the things I would recommend to pick up as playsets if you plan to play Extended:

ONSLAUGHT CARDS ONLY GOOD 'TILL 2009:

Fetchlands
Cycling lands
Exalted Angel
Ravenous Baloth
Blistering Firecat
Dwarven Blastminer
Smother
Chain of Vapor
Decree of Justice
Eternal Dragon
Stifle
Mind's Desire
Tendrils of Agony
Brain Freeze
Patriarch's Bidding
the Astral Slide deck
the Goblin deck

MUST-HAVE RARES

Tarmogoyf
Chrome Mox
Ravnica shocklands
Painlands
Thoughtseize
Dark Confidant
Umezawa's Jitte
Engineered Explosives
Wrath of God/Damnation
Birds of Paradise/Llanowar Elves
Kataki, War's Wage/Hurkyl's Recall/Shatterstorm (the affinity breakers)
Doran, the Siege Tower
Loxodon Hierarch
Gaddock Teeg
Sword of Fire and Ice
Arcbound Ravager
Gifts Ungiven
Isamaru, Hound of Konda
Savannah Lions
Vedalken Shackles/Threads of Disloyalty/Sower of Temptation
Blinkmoth Nexus
Mutavault
Profane Command
Gemstone Mine/City of Brass/Reflecting Pool
Cryptic Command
Extirpate
Death Cloud
Garruk Wildspeaker
Liliana Vess
Life from the Loam
Tormod's Crypt
Sundering Titan
Mindslaver
Magus of the Moon/Blood Moon
Pithing Needle
Chalice of the Void
Academy Ruins
Miren, the Moaning Well
Kamigawa legendary lands (just in case)
Figure of Destiny
Bitterblossom
Vendilion Clique
Pyromancer's Swath
Lotus Bloom
Crucible of Worlds
Venser, Shaper Savant
Meloku, the Clouded Mirror
Rude Awakening
Char
Psionic Blast
Tooth and Nail
Darksteel Colossus
Triskelion
Duplicant
Heartbeat of Spring
Infernal Tutor/Plunge into Darkness
Arc-Slogger
Golgari Grave-Troll
Pact of Negation
Through the Breach
Body Double
Reveillark
Protean Hulk
Enduring Ideal

COMMONS/UNCOMMONS:

Thirst for Knowledge
Counterbalance
Shrapnel Blast
Trinket Mage
Shattering Spree/Ancient Grudge (the affinity breakers)
Simian Spirit Guide
Rite of Flame/Desparate Ritual/Seething Song/Channel the Suns (the rituals)
Empty the Warrens/Grapeshot/Ignite Memories (the storm cards)
Lightning Helix
Incinerate
Tribal Flames
Spell Snare
Mana Leak
Remand
Condescend
Wall of Roots
Sakura-Tribe Elder
Echoing Truth
Putrefy
Mortify
Eternal Witness
Treetop Village
Pentad Prism
Mogg Fanatic
Kird Ape
Molten Rain
Chromatic Star/Chromatic Sphere
Oblivion Ring
Tolaria West
Skred
Rift Bolt
Magma Jet
Seal of Fire
Tarfire
Keldon Marauders
Repeal
Sleight of Hand/Serum Visions/Ponder/Telling Time
Narcomoeba
Stinkweed Imp
Golgari Thug
Disenchant/Naturalize/Seal of Primordium/Krosan Grip (the disenchants)
Yixlid Jailer/Withered Wretch
Darkblast
Dread Return
Gutteral Response
Electrolyze
The Rack
Stupor
Isochron Scepter
Jotun Grunt
the UrzaTron
Ravnica Signets + Mirrodin Talismans
Snow-covered basic lands
Mirrodin artifact lands
just about the entire Affinity deck
the $20 burn deck

That should cover the format for the next few years. Hopefully, I didn't forget anything. This is all stuff I currently have put aside for Extended.