Policy suggestion: notification before getting dropped

Manipulation · Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Posts: 294 Location: Oxnard

I don't think this is an issue that needs fixing. That being said, I have not been on the receiving end of a problem stemming from timers. If I had been, I might be more inclined one way or the other.

!time is my best friend. Razz

Avata · Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 372

mTk-Away · Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 73

thedarkness, when you say you think this would be easy to implement, I really hoped you could be a little more precise on that. As this supposedly is easy to implement, how exactly do we make it? Who will do the work? You?

The problem as it is now is that we might have some 80 people in trial. The TC would have to manually message everyone who hasn't reported (remember, IRC and site are NOT connected!), which is usually about 10% of players at end of each round.
To use quick maths, during 5 rounds you'd have somewhere around 10 and 30 manual (I repeat, manual) messages for people in addition to taking care of all the TC'ing and judging problems.

Sure, this would be a nice thing to have, but unless it can be automated something, it's just yet another unneeded pain in the ass for the TC.

thedarkness · Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 487

It can be automated, and I suggested a way to automate it. >_>

It's not exactly what is needed, but it serves the same purpose: an end of round automatic notification could be added to the TC scripts. That way, the issue of the mIRC users noticing a pm (mostly) would still be addressed, and the players could pm the TC instead of the TC pm'ing the players. easier for everybody, and for the judges it just requires a re-download of their TC script.

That being said, I know some judges are more partial to older scripts, so I would suggest adding it to all available versions.

@ Avata: I never said that it being my fault was irrelevant. Try READING THE POST. I said, twice, that THE REASON WHY I missed timers was irrelevant, because I still missed them. And unlike the 5-6 people who OBVIOUSLY replied to my post without reading it, I have read all of your posts in turn. If you have nothing productive to add to this topic, DON'T ADD IT.

Avata · Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 372

Trotsky1 · Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 767

The Judge who did such a terrible thing as not notifying you time was up should be flogged and fed to the dogs. Such an attrocity is simply unspeakable, unspeakable I tell you.

gypsy · Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 833

when i used to play here i remember some of the tcs script auto messaging people in the trial/mini that time was up what happened to that part of the script.

nico · Administrator Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 819

As you are aware, the judges scripts uses channel notices to anounce times in round and end of round. You could set your mirc so it beeps at channel notices. A beep is the only way that you can get a notice, since you are not in the mirc screen. If you miss that beep due to any reason, like not turning up your volume, or just not setting up your mirc the right way, it is fully your own fault that you missed the round end. If you miss a round because of not hearing it, you are also likely to miss the pm, exactly for the same reasons, so all in all you can say it is your own fault for not being alert enough to react to the situation in the time that is allowed.

Greetz Nico

ant900 · Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 2477 Location: somewhere

thedarkness · Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 487

Avata: do you just totally ignore the point of the post you reply to?

READ
THE
POST.

The reason why I missed the timer ISN'T relevant TO WHAT I AM TRYING TO PROPOSE. If you insist on being a dumbass, I will treat you like a dumbass.

So tell me: why, exactly, does the reason for my missing timers have any relation at all to the JUDGE'S DECISION on WHAT TO DO ABOUT MY MISSING THE TIMERS?

I could have missed them because I was shot in the face, I could have missed them because I wasn't paying attention. IT DOESN'T MATTER.

Got it? I hope that was clear enough for you. Also, if you keep changing your argument every post, don't expect me to respond to each one individually. I'm done arguing with you, because my "responding with the same thing yet again" was a more reasonable response than any of your 2+ different questions, answered both of them, and didn't change each time I used it.

Nico: ant900 basically answered that one for me. If every channel notice beeps (or fails to, which it sometimes does for reasons outside of human control), simple human nature will tune them out, if not on a consistent basis, at least frequently enough that they will sometimes miss important notices. There's no way around THAT though, so I won't comment any further on it. The whole point to my entire suggestion is that the players will be able to SEE, without having to look for something they don't necessarily know exists, FOR WHATEVER REASON, at the very least WHAT has happened, if not why it happened. THAT much can be easily automated. If the player has a query as to what has happened, THEY can pm the TC.

Gypsy: your opinion seems to vary here. You treat me like a retard in one post, then repeat what I just said like it's some sort of revelation in the next, and then agree with me completely in the following post, then begin the cycle anew.

"when i used to play here i remember some of the tcs script auto messaging people in the trial/mini that time was up what happened to that part of the script."

That's what I was suggesting they re-implement IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Craze · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 5347 Location: Indiana, U

-right click any nick on any channel's nick list, then select "UWho" which should be on the same list as "Whois" And go to the Highlight tab.
-That OR go to Tools - Options - IRC - Highlight.
- Now check the "Enable Highlighting" box
- Click Add, type: $me in the box. And Click the "No Sound" button and it should say Beep. You can also set a color for this.

What that does is make it so whenever someone says your current nick, your mIRC beeps. This should inform you whenever they warn you to report.

Note: You have to have sounds enabled. Which all you have to do is go to Tools - Options - Sounds - and check the Enable Sounds box

thedarkness · Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 487

Craze, I'm going to cry.

That was quite possibly the most productive post in this entire thread. ;-;

Even the admins were bordering on flaming instead of offering suggestions. ;-;

Thank you. Very Happy

If I can figure out how to set that up, I will, but I still think there should be a policy change, or at least some notice somewhere for reference purposes. -_-

;-;

DaveK · Joined: 26 Nov 2007 Posts: 39

If it was hard to keep track of time left, then a policy change would be in order.

But it's not.

Thanks for the tip craze.