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Delicious
Joined: 08 Jun 2007
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 Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: another planeswalker question |
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| When a planeswalker gets 0 counters on itself. is thee any response to bounce it back to your hand with another card? |
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ronjeremyjr
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Nope, when a planeswalker has zero counters it is put into the graveyard as a state based effect. Think of once a creature has been dealt lethal damage you don't have a chance to save it. |
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BusDriver
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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It's a cost, you can't respond to the payment of a cost. It's bouncing a creature with familiar's ruse or saccing land with shard volley.
In an activated ability anything before ':" happends immediately. |
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aldaryn
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| The creature analogy isn't perfect because you can do these kinds of things with lethal COMBAT damage since that is something that goes on the stack. Listen to BusDriver's explanation instead. No offense to mr. jeremy |
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Hardtrack
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| aldaryn wrote: | | The creature analogy isn't perfect because you can do these kinds of things with lethal COMBAT damage since that is something that goes on the stack. Listen to BusDriver's explanation instead. No offense to mr. jeremy |
Eh no, the example of ronjeremyjr is perfect. It works exactly the same way. That combat damage gets assigned is neither here nor there. You can't respond to it being dealt lethal damage. |
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ronjeremyjr
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| aldaryn and the busdriver are slightly confused. Once the damage has been dealt if it's lethal damage then you do not actually have a chance to respond to it before the creature is put in the graveyard. The same thing goes for planeswalkers. When there are no counters on a planeswalker state based effects are checked and it's put into the graveyard. |
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Daveslusher
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| blah blah blah rules lawyer |
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