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Dooby12 · Joined: 07 May 2005 Posts: 57

This is the deck I've got built(and taking to a PTQ,barring any new changes or new plans)

21xSwamp
3xCabal Coffers
1xBoseiju,Who Shelters All

4xDamnation
4xDuress
4xChainer's Edict
4xDiabolic Tutor
3xConsume Spirit
3xCorrupt
3xNantuko Shade
3xDistress
3xPhyrexian Arena
2xMind Sludge
2xHaunting Echoes
2xDecree of Pain

Sideboard

4xInnocent Blood
3xOblivion Stone
3xEngineered Plague
3xSudden Death
2xDeath Cloud

The deck has played pretty good here lately(won a couple of matches against affinity yesterday,which made me feel pretty good) and this is my all-time favorite deck. I've been told that Pernicious Deed would be a good card to add,but that was only for affinity,and as stated earlier,the deck was doing pretty good against affinity.

I know there will be a few people(ok a lot) that will say this deck sucks,and that's all good and everything. The problem I have is should I play Boseiju in the deck or not?

When I played yesterday,of course,it wasn't even used and was never needed. I know that there are a few Control decks and Counter decks,and I would like to keep it in for those few match-ups,but is it worth it? Thanks and let me know what you guys think.

Jacois · Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 453

With all the discard the deck doesn't need Boseiju.

P.S. Nantuko Shade is a really bad card.

Delicious · Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 425

poolhustla · Joined: 25 Dec 2005 Posts: 52

i think urborg would be amazing in the deck, with dredge being able to go off turn 2 or 3, you need to speed up alot. urborg + coffers = 6 mana turn three for echoes. i also believe extirpate should be board. its amazing against dredge. you should drop nantuko shade for korlash, he cant be killed by vindicate or smother which the shade can be taken care of by both. thoughtseize over distress and cabal therapy over duress, therapy allows for 2/1 or 3/1 card advantage, plus you can hit creatures. i think your land base should be

17 swamp
3 urborg
4 coffers

maybe 1 mirari?

Delicious · Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 425

poolhustla · Joined: 25 Dec 2005 Posts: 52

duress doesnt hit creatures, yes hes running damnation and chainers but i think being able to hit anything is better, distress just isnt as good, takes up a 2cc spot

Delicious · Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 425

i think he should replace it with distress. duress that is

Dooby12 · Joined: 07 May 2005 Posts: 57

Didn't actually think about Korlash in this deck,but will give it a try and see.

As for Shade being bad,Shade has been very good in this deck,and how anyone gets its bad,I'm not sure. I mean,yeah,he's not as good as used to be,but he is still good.

To me,anything that can swing for 5 on turn 3 and can get bigger every turn has to be good. Again this is only my opinion though.

The only reason I don't run Thoughtseizes or THerapys is because I don't have them. If I could,I'd run them and Duress and Thoughtseize instead of Distress.

Thanks for the suggestions everyone.

Spyx · Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 835

Shade is a great card but not in control decks. I would definetely play korlash, because he is basically just as big as shade, without having to commit mana all the time, and he regens as well.
Also play 2 tombstalker..that card rocks. Shriekmaw is pretty awesome as well.

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m3lk0r · Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 31

I play MBC a lot and is my favorite since i start mtg.Its always my first choice as a deck to work on it in every format.So my suggestions are the following:

I like creatureless lists for my MBC's
but if you want creature play korlash(4 copies) or Skeletal Vampire over nantuko.

-1 Boseiju
-1 Swamp
-3 Consume spirit
-3 Nantuko Shade
-1 Corrupt
-3 Distress

+2 Urborg
+3 Tendrils of Corruption
+1 Mirari
+1 Phyrexian Arena
+1 Riptide Replicator
+4 Thoughtseize or Cabal therapy (u HAVE to find them,distress sucks)

Also i usually play 4xInnocent Blood Maindeck cause i really need that 1cc removal.so if u want u can replace the tendrils and 1 decree for 4 Innocent Blood and move tendril to SB if u need the gain life.

My suggestion for SB:
3xEngineered Plague
4xRancid Earth
1xCorrupt
2xBoseiju
3xMind Shatter(u can also test this for Maindeck)
2xDeath Cloud

anyway SB always depend on metagame..
Good Luck dude MBC rocks!!!

poolhustla · Joined: 25 Dec 2005 Posts: 52

1 urborg + 1swamp + 1 coffers

with urborg on the board you coffers is also a swamp so tap 3 get 6

m3lk0r · Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 31

Dooby12 · Joined: 07 May 2005 Posts: 57

I think to produce 6 mana you need 1 Urborg+1 Swamp+2 Coffers.

Personally,I've been told this version of the deck sucks because I don't run Pernicious Deed. I've thought about possibly running a Death Cloud deck,but have to get the cards for it.

Anyway,I've yet to get to try this deck with Korlash,due to testing with the Death Cloud deck,but will try it out. As far as the Corrupts and Consume's,I'd rather keep those in,mostly for other win conditions than anything.

Dooby12 · Joined: 07 May 2005 Posts: 57

Well,just to update this,the deck with Korlash.......sucks:(

I ended up taking this deck with me and didn't really do much,seeing as to how I was screwed over pretty bad in some games. This was the deck

19xSwamp
2xUrborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
3xCabal Coggers
1xBoseiju, Who Shelters All

4xDamnation
4xThoughtseize
4xDuress
4xChainer's Edict
4xDiabloic Tutor
3xPhyrexian Arena
3xNantuko Shade
3xConsume Spirit
3xCorrupt
2xDecree of Pain
2xMind Sludge
2xHaunting Echoes

Sideboard

4xInnocent Blood
3xOblivion Stone
3xEngineered Plague
3xSudden Death
2xDeath Cloud

In all the Match-ups I faced,the only on I really should have lost to was the dredge deck,seeing as to how I didn't side anything for it(and thought Echoes would be enough,which I was wrong). Anyway,I ended up losing to that,Doran and a BW control deck(this was after 5 rounds,not in a row).

My biggest problem was not drawing land. Both games I lost to Doran,had Damnation and other cards in hand,but was stuck on 3 Lands. Both games.

In Round 5,I played the BW control deck. I win game one and Lose game 2 and 3 to Desolation Angel. Both times holding an Innocent Blood in hand and wanting to draw the one swamp to cast it(had an Arena out third game and couldn't draw anything except a coffers).

Anyway,this is the deck I'm pretty set on running,Dropping a Thoughtseize and finding room for Leyline of the Void sideboard. Other than that,this deck was great.