Scepter Chant advice needed

AkYo · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 185

well was the Japaneses lists that made day 2 at PT Valencia I just really felt like playing this deck even tho it is kinda meh in this meta.. anyone think any changes are needed or tech? w/ morning tide .. also what bad match ups does this deck have? because i'm really new to EXT I still need to gauntlet the deck =/ maybe someone can give me a heads up

the list...

1 Academy Ruins
4 Flooded Strand
1 Godless Shrine
1 Hallowed Fountain
5 Island
1 Plains
4 Polluted Delta
2 Seat of the Synod
1 Swamp
2 Watery Grave

2 Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir

4 Chrome Mox
2 Counterbalance
4 Counterspell
3 Damnation
1 Engineered Explosives
2 Fact or Fiction
4 Isochron Scepter
4 Orim's Chant
4 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Spell Snare
4 Thirst for Knowledge

Sideboard:
2 Counterbalance
1 Engineered Explosives
3 Ghastly Demise
4 Leyline of the Void
2 Tombstalker
3 Tormod's Crypt

Amaterasu · Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Posts: 72

Where's Smother? Smother on stick would be nice, perhaps?

rdeg87 · Joined: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 181

Wierd... I know its not your deck, but why play Damnation over Wrath

memphis · Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 3

Do not run leylines in sideboard ever. 4 extirpates are sooo much better.

KeySam · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 545

I can tell you that this deck kind of strugles against combo. Vs some combo decks(e.g. ideal) scepter chant may be enough, vs other decks it isnt and since your only thread is also the unbreakable lock and cost 5 mana and you only play 2 they have plenty of time. some manlands would be nice to atleast have somewhat of a clock. If you combine that with a few utility creatures it even gets better(e.g. venser). And i realy dislike this list doesnt have cunning wish, it let you get scepter chant more easy and opens for some other nice things(lightning helix on scepter is also a win condition) and obviously i let you search your extirpates against dredge from side in game 1 or even stifles... I guess the aggro matchup is nice, i dont understand the random explosives with no way to find it. The sideboard had a lot of dredge hate, i am not sure how many dredge players your meta has but if it isnt a huge thing 4 cards may be enough. I am not sure how this deck is doing against aggro control but i doesnt seem very good. Well thats all for now.

da_penguin · Guest

yo do realise that its not his list its the japanesse list from valencia, its not that strong i tried it out and it seemed very underpowered, and it runs damnation over wrath bc its only white cards are chants and it gets better black cards, and cunning wish sucks in chant btw.

Apocalypser · Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 62

da_penguin · Guest

how does smother on a stick suck, kills so much stuff in this format its retarded

rarehunter13 · Joined: 25 Nov 2005 Posts: 16

Cunning Wish is just way too slow in the format. And not having it allows for an actual sideboard. I've been playing the deck for 2 years now, but even I have to hang up the Sticks for, I'm pretty sure its just not viable.

Eldar · Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 356 Location: Rochester

Why would you ever want smother on a stick when you can have demise on a stick. In a deck like this demise is almost always better. Also he runs more black mana overall the white is only for chant obv that is why he doesn't run WoG. I also feel extirpate would be far better in this deck. You only need to worry about a few spells and extirpate does that easy plus you can put it on a stick what is not to like? I really dislike this deck because of the 2 teferi as win condition main deck, I always like having the option of fire/ice or helix on a stick also at the very least.

da_penguin · Guest

dont play this deck just play another counterbalance deck this deck is very bad.