What's wrong with Ron Paul??

Manipulation · Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Posts: 294 Location: Oxnard

As for your ludicrous statement about how if we withdrew, our terrorist attack rate would double. I'd like to point out that the terrorist groups we are "defending" Iraq from had nothing to do with 9/11. And that thanks to the excessive dept we've put ourselves into from united defense, a another 9/11 isn't conceivable and won't be for decades. The bush administration has made this country so paranoid of terrorist attacks that are biggest threat isn't from the poor ass terrorists across the seas but from our own citizens. Ever see the tv show Jericho? Thats more likely to happen then another 9/11. And I'm not saying that will ever be conceivable either.[/quote]

9/11 count: 3

A little low, but you may want to send Giuliani a sample of your writing! Razz

Craze · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 5347 Location: Indiana, U

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BigShow · Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 1306 Location: Igloo town

Won't Lie. I know nothing about American Politics. But I still think that no one should base a book by its cover.

Sure, you can say he is great, and of course have a short attention span and try to read lord of the rings. I think what it comes down to is, within the 30+ yrs he has been in, he hasn't really brought what he has said to the people.

Other than that God Speed.
Cheers
Bigshow

Boba383 · Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 67

Ok me personally, I feel very strongly on politics, and lots of social issues even though I'm just 18 (lol i gotta make up for all my idiot peers who decide that voting is not worth their time)

first let me say the political system is messed up in the USA beyond belief. The politicians are too concerned about keeping their sponsors happy to do anything useful, and none of them seem to represent what most of the people here want (not completely true, but i find that a lot of people see suporting someone as really just choosing the lesser of two evils really)

Ron Paul could be a good president in my eyes, because I do believe our government has gotten too large for its own good. Welfare programs are exploited and abused and need to be seriously revised. I can't say I want all government programs gone but a lot of them are wastes of money and abused by the lazy people in my country (and its across the board, there are lazy ass white trash, illegals immigrants collecting on fake SSN, lazy blacks, its almost everyone...lol except the asians...for some reason I cant see asians standing in welfare lines haha. and im not a racist! im white and despise the lazy white trash as much as everyone else who exploits the welfare system)

Second, the USA has definetely made a mistake by goin into Iraq, but pulling out is really not the answer. I dont know what the answewr is (again I'm only 1 Cool

but i really doubt pulling out would help. In all reality we should have taken out Saudi Arabia not Iraq. They are the worlds biggest funders of terrorists worldwide and build thousands of extremist schools around the world to train new terrorists (and I apologize to anybody here who may be Saudi Arabian, I mean no insult to you. Just the people funding terrorists). I am truly not affraid of a terrorist attack myself, but it is more than likely to happen again, and I'm tired of people telling me and my country we are idiots (haha ok yes some of us are, including the president) but we aren't going to just sit back and let people do what they want to us. And how the hell does putting ourselves in debt make another 9/11 impossible?? that makes no sense at all......

As a final note, ethanol is the most idiotic thing people are supporting....besides the "environmental factor" and the "foriegn dependence" factor (foriegn dependence could be cut down if we drilled here, but personally living in California I can tell you that it is actually illegal to build new drills offshore where a large portion of oil is stored, and enviornmentalists throw a fit it people want to drill), one of the biggest complaints about oil is the price. Guess what....ethanol is more expensive. It is cheaper per gallon but fuel economy reduces dramatically (its about a 40-45% drop in fuel economy i believe) because of the lower potential energy in ethanol. and thank you again i know this from personal experience as cars in CA have lower fuel economies bcuz our state government decided ethanol to be mixed in with gasoline everywhere in the state. But the cost of ethanol is actually higher than that of gasonline, so guess what? It probably isnt gona be the "answer" that people are looking for. But I do agree that gasonline needs to b replaced (im personally for hydrogen. i have a whole theory on how hyrdogen could b produced in high enough amounts to make it viable but my hands are too tired to type it out right now. maybe some other time)

Anywayz if you managed to get through this than congratulations you made it through the rants of a 18 year old libertarian who believes he is at least some what well informed....haha

Boba383

lizardgod · Joined: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 31

i am not big into politics but since i do vote i pay a little more than minimal attention to it. One thing i would like to say for this guy is that i read he was talking about doing away with some of the foreign aid programs. It listed a few countrys that he would remove or reduce aid to. several of the countries that were listed were countries that vote against us in major UN votes. I don't see why we should give Pakistan 1.3 billion dollars when they vote against us 83% of time in UN votes. I don't think we should pay countries to vote with us, but i would expect that if we (the taxpayers) are gonna give money to the goverment and then it is gonna give it to countries those countries should at least attempt to help us in affairs we are trying to pass UN voting procedure. Granted on most of the votes we still win but that is not the point, this guy wants to send the message that "Hey oppose us and we will not help you, side with us and we will share the wealth. Sound like a deal?" and i agree with that, not saying he doesnt have faults or that i will vote for him but it is something in his favor come november.

Boba383 · Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 67

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BigShow · Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 1306 Location: Igloo town

Hillary has years while she manipulated Bill.

Boba383 · Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 67

No I have a very good reason for not liking her...for instanace she wants to increase spending in the US by about another 1.5 trillion dollars (between universal healrth care, which I do not want to get into, Pre-k programs which there are already programs that cover that in place and other programs she wants to start the estimated cost is almost $1 trillion for universal health care alone)...being that we are already in massive debt I have no idea how this is supossed to work...and she wants to increase taxes on business and corporations, like most democrats do, which is a really shitty thing to do because frankly its bad that my parents who makes about $250k a year have to pay the same percentage of their income in taxes as people who make hundreds of millions of dollars a year simply because they registered their company as a corporation (and people seem to think corporations get all these tax breaks...haha ya thats not true in our case. I cant speak for large corporations but that couldnt b farther from the truth in my experience...last time I checked paying about 50% of ones income in taxes is not getting tax breaks)....also I frankly find it wonderful how i own my own business and I have to pay 15% extra on taxes on top of income taxes because I own my own business...my friend made more money than me for instance one year and I still payed more than he did in taxes...and frankly I do not make much money I am a part time worker and I dont want to see more of my money go to people who sit on their asses and do nothing with their lives (one of the reasons I like Ron Paul...no more welfare)

Yes I am young and a libertarian, and am not in support of a lot of stuff "to help those in need" because the systems are abused and exploited by thousands. Also I am not a Republican...Republicans care too much about forcing people to live under Christianity and telling us what we can do for my personal taste...too bad Ron Pual has no chance of winning anywhere though *sigh* but nyway on the original topic, really I registered Democrat because I will do anything I can to prevent Hilary from becoming President...and by all accounts she is not a "center-left" politician, her programs are very much socialist programs, which is not exactly a "moderate left" point of view.

Boba383 · Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 67

Apos · Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 732

americans have only 2 canditates ron paul and the rest

Boba383 · Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 67