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Thorns of Amethyst...is is effective out of the sideboard?



 
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Black_Dog



Joined: 29 Sep 2006
Posts: 175

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like it a lot against MBC but generally in T2 you run so many lands that it can be worthless. With Garruk in the game so much its kinda...meh Razz
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denvermagic



Joined: 03 Jan 2008
Posts: 21

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When i ran it it felt like it should be something better. I only liked it when i had 3 in play at once. Rolling Eyes
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OldBear



Joined: 12 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can only speak from the control perspective, but when ever ive had it played against me ive found it to be ineffective.
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Counterlife



Joined: 02 Oct 2005
Posts: 95

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It only seems to want to work in say MGA. Paired with Root Maze, you can fuck a game plan up royally. First turn birds, second turn root maze and Thorn. Or First turn Elves...even better.
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Mihealsick



Joined: 20 Sep 2004
Posts: 22

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't played standard since nationals, so I'm more than a little out of touch with the new strategies...

But I don't think I'd side in Thorn of Amethyst against a control deck, that seems like a poor investment of a card and your mana.

How well does it thwart the Dragonstorm decks though? Do they scoop to it? Do they have any answers? Or does it just hurt their feelings a little and they still go off?
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R3wind



Joined: 24 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it may not be very good in Standard. In most other formats it is a strong card. In Legacy and Vintage it is a backbreacking play on turn one. Backed up by Force of Will with one mana open on turn one of course. I think that it may be one of the best anti combo cards in the game.

This card alone gives true aggro decks a fighting chance vs combo decks like Grim Long and Gush-A-'tog. On the other hand it also gives true control decks like 43 Land game vs the combo decks.
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lennin
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its an 8th spere of resistance for stax in t1
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FR33BALLA247



Joined: 14 Oct 2007
Posts: 156

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you're all idiots, thorn is insane. i win every fnm and i maindeck it
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FR33BALLA247



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crushes any sort of storm combo by itself, and is pretty much a time walk against control removal.
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R3wind



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I was thinking the same think. I belive that this card was created to "fix" the storm decks. I guess that they don't really care about the other combo deck, Dredge.

Hmm GB aggro with Thorn and Jailer in the main... That was me thinking.
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FR33BALLA247



Joined: 14 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dredge isnt in t2 retard, this is the standard forum
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