Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker

stefant · Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 14

When a creature with power 1 is put into the graveyard with Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker in play, then that creature is removed from the game, does it still return at the end of the turn?

ronjeremyjr · Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 46

A delayed triggered ability that creates a one shot effect in a particular zone will do nothing if that permanent leaves the zone before the trigger occurs.

So no, you don't get the creature back.

stefant · Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 14

Yeah i didnt think so but i wanted to be sure. Thanks.

DaanP · Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 25

CMA-Flippi · Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:09 am Post subject:

Leyline of the Void
2BB
Enchantment
If Leyline of the Void is in your opening hand, you may begin the game with it in play.
If a card would be put into an opponent's graveyard, remove it from the game instead.

Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker
4B
Legendary Creature - Spirit
2/2
Whenever a creature with power 1 or less is put into your graveyard from play, you may return that card to play under your control at end of turn if Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker is still in play.

Shirei has a trigger (whenever a..) while leyline sets up a replacement effect (instead, this happens).

So what happes when the Eager Cadet ( W - 1/1 ) is put into your graveyard ? THe way to the graveyard is replaced by Leyline. Instead going to the graveyard, it is removed from game. It never touches the graveyard, so Shirei doesn't even trigger.

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stefant · Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 14

What I meant was more like: 1/1 goes to graveyard. Just before end of my turn opponent plays:
Blah B
Remove one target creature in a graveyard from play.

Hardtrack · Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 310

You mean Cremate?

The answer is still the same. You don't get the creature back. If it's not in the graveyard when the ability of Shirei resolves nothing is returned.