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Gerrardfo



Joined: 04 Sep 2004
Posts: 321

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:03 pm    Post subject: Rock Reply with quote

4c Gifts Rock, as played by Gerardo Godinez Estrada:
2 Forest
2 Swamp
1 Plains
1 Island
1 Llanowar Wastes
3 Overgrown Tomb
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Temple Garden
1 Breeding Pool
1 Godless Shrine
1 Watery Grave
4 Windswept Heath
2 Polluted Delta
1 Genesis
1 Withered Wretch
1 Ravenous Baloth
3 Loxodon Hierarch
3 Wall of Roots
3 Eternal Witness
3 Sakura-Tribe Elder
4 Birds of Paradise
2 Vindicate
3 Duress
3 Cabal Therapy
3 Smother
2 Putrefy
2 Pernicious Deed
3 Living Wish
3 Gifts Ungiven
//Sideboard:
SB: 1 Cranial Extraction
SB: 2 Krosan Grip
SB: 1 Global Ruin
SB: 1 Eternal Witness
SB: 1 Withered Wretch
SB: 1 Kataki, War's Wage
SB: 1 Loxodon Hierarch
SB: 1 Meloku the Clouded Mirror
SB: 1 Ravenous Baloth
SB: 2 Darkblast
SB: 1 Cabal Therapy
SB: 1 Smother
SB: 1 Kami of Ancient Law

Assorted Flow Rock (not an optimal version)
2 Cabal Therapy
4 Duress
4 Putrefy
2 Sword of Fire and Ice
4 Umezawa's Jitte
3 Destructive Flow
4 Call of the Herd
1 Elves of Deep Shadow
2 Ravenous Baloth
1 Llanowar Elves
4 Troll Ascetic
4 Birds of Paradise
3 Dark Confidant
1 Overgrown Tomb
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Bloodstained Mire
2 Mountain
7 Forest
4 Swamp
//Sideboard:
SB: 1 Ravenous Baloth
SB: 2 Artifact Mutation
SB: 2 Flametongue Kavu
SB: 3 Krosan Grip
SB: 2 Smother
SB: 4 Leyline of the Void
SB: 1 Destructive Flow

Stuart Wright's version:
4 Bloodstained Mire
4 Wooded Foothills
2 Windswept Heath
1 Stomping Ground
1 Blood Crypt
1 Overgrown Tomb
3 Mountain
2 Forest
2 Swamp
4 Kird Ape
4 Elves of Deep Shadow
4 Grim Lavamancer
2 Shadow Guildmage
4 Wild Mongrel
4 Dark Confidant
2 Tin Street Hooligan
2 Call of the Herd
4 Firebolt
4 Lava Dart
3 Sudden Shock
3 Destructive Flow
//Sideboard:
SB: 4 Cabal Therapy
SB: 4 Ancient Grudge
SB: 3 Umezawa's Jitte
SB: 3 Tormod's Crypt
SB: 1 Call of the Herd

Which version is stronger in the current metagame? How could each version be tuned? Discuss!


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MagicMasterB



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opion Gifts rock is going to be better if boros is still going to be played the most at ptq's(which it will), but that version of gifts rock isn't very good in my opinion
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DJ_Riduh



Joined: 03 Sep 2004
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:22 pm    Post subject: improvements Reply with quote

Why don't you like this list? How would you improve it?
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Vodka_7up



Joined: 06 Oct 2004
Posts: 188

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm definitely a fan of Aggro Flow. Something about quick efficient beats, quality discard, and an super LD enchantment makes me happy. My only question though is why is Leyline of the Void played over Crypt? At there quickest they both come down practically the same time, but at there slowest Leyline really is a pain at 4cc, where as Crypt is free.

Also with ppl playing more and MORE basics, would Stone Rain in the MD or SB be viable? Final question, why don't ppl play Wright's version anymore?
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CUB3X



Joined: 10 Feb 2007
Posts: 19

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a very interesting version of Gifts Rock that did quite well. Here is the list.

Main Deck
//Land
1 Breeding Pool
3 Forest
1 Godless Shrine
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Island
3 Overgrown Tomb
1 Plains
3 Polluted Delta
2 Swamp
1 Temple Garden
1 Watery Grave
3 Windswept Heath

//Spells
4 Cabal Therapy
1 Damnation
2 Duress
4 Gifts Ungiven
4 Living Wish
1 Putrefy
1 Smother
1 Vindicate

//Creatures
4 Birds of Paradise
3 Eternal Witness
1 Genesis
3 Loxodon Hierarch
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Sower of Temptation

//Enchantments
3 Collective Restraint
2 Pernicious Deed

//Sideboard
1 Eternal Witness
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Harmonic Sliver
1 Indrik Stomphowler
1 Kataki, War's Wage
1 Loxodon Hierarch
1 Meddling Mage
1 Ravenous Baloth
1 Shriekmaw
1 Silklash Spider
1 Sower of Temptation
1 True Believer
1 Withered Wretch
1 Yixlid Jailer
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All

Essentially, if you can resolve a living wish on turn 2 and play the fetch some decks scoop including: affinity vs katai, ichord vs wretch or jailer, combo vs mage, tooth and nail vs teeg.

Now this deck could be improved but as I said I lost about anywhere from 4-7 games the entire time I owned the deck.
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CUB3X



Joined: 10 Feb 2007
Posts: 19

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a very interesting version of Gifts Rock that did quite well. Here is the list.

Main Deck
//Land
1 Breeding Pool
3 Forest
1 Godless Shrine
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Island
3 Overgrown Tomb
1 Plains
3 Polluted Delta
2 Swamp
1 Temple Garden
1 Watery Grave
3 Windswept Heath

//Spells
4 Cabal Therapy
1 Damnation
2 Duress
4 Gifts Ungiven
4 Living Wish
1 Putrefy
1 Smother
1 Vindicate

//Creatures
4 Birds of Paradise
3 Eternal Witness
1 Genesis
3 Loxodon Hierarch
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Sower of Temptation

//Enchantments
3 Collective Restraint
2 Pernicious Deed

//Sideboard
1 Eternal Witness
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Harmonic Sliver
1 Indrik Stomphowler
1 Kataki, War's Wage
1 Loxodon Hierarch
1 Meddling Mage
1 Ravenous Baloth
1 Shriekmaw
1 Silklash Spider
1 Sower of Temptation
1 True Believer
1 Withered Wretch
1 Yixlid Jailer
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All

Essentially, if you can resolve a living wish on turn 2 and play the fetch some decks scoop including: affinity vs katai, ichord vs wretch or jailer, combo vs mage, tooth and nail vs teeg.

Now this deck could be improved but as I said I lost about anywhere from 4-7 games the entire time I owned the deck and won 40+
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