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Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 78
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:21 am Post subject: Jace Beleren deck (creatureless) |
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Could you help me with this deck making it more efficient or telling me what you all think? I believe the deck has really good potential:
4 Jace Beleren
4 Thoughtseize
4 Runesnag
3 Remove Soul
4 Broken Ambitions
4 Jester's Scepter
4 Damnation
3 Tendrils of Corruption
2 Nameless Inversion
2 Sudden Death
4 Desert
4 River of Tears
3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
4 Underground River
4 Island
5 Swamp |
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Black_Dog
Joined: 29 Sep 2006 Posts: 173
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:53 am Post subject: |
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i would...
-1 Broken Ambition
-1 Remove Soul
-3 Tendrills of Corruption
-2 Nameless Inversion
-1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
-4 River of Tears
+1 Dread
+2 Liliana Vess
+2 Traumatize
+2 Terror
+3 Terramorphic Expanse
+2 Dreadship Reef
If you want to win by Milling, then run Traumatize. Add Liliana Vess for card fetch, then discard and an alternate win condition. Lose Nameless for Terror cause it kills bigger things and if it cant you have Sudden Death/Damnation. Add in Dread (I know he's a creature) but he rocks and fits nicely here. 3 Terramorphic thins out your deck but makes it a tad slower but speed aint your thing. Dreadship Reef for added help to your mana. |
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Jacois
Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 721
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| And 1 Urza's Factory |
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Mirage
Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 114
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:26 am Post subject: |
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| I don't like this deck, but I'd try Tombstalker. |
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Lenin
Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 87
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| face it! jace is way to weake to build a dec around him |
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Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 78
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:48 am Post subject: Jace is amazing |
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| Jace is NOT way too weak!!! He is comprable to Garruk, though his potential has not been discovered. In this deck the first two Jaces are used only to dig to your third (finishing) Jace. It is great card advantage and a finisher. |
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Spyx
Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 1031
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| so you basically roll over and die to pithing needle? i'd run profane command so you have a least one other win condition. |
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Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 78
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:01 am Post subject: pithing needle |
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good point on pithing needle
I could remove deserts i think and run white for oblivion ring and for SB. also whoule allow Teferi's moat in SB |
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lennin Guest
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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| you need some sort of card draw |
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Noremac
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 97
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Because Jace isn't card draw...... |
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| you need more than that to draw into stuff, and jace draws your opps cards also |
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surelock
Joined: 01 May 2006 Posts: 4
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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| May as well use Howling Mine and Rites of Flourishing if you are going to mill them to death. And the blue card that gives you 2 extra turns as well, do not recall the name. |
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Lynolf
Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 382
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I've tried Forced Fruition in some mill decks and believe me, that card is INSANE!!!!! Too bad you're not running white, Rule of Law would be really handy too. |
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Conkisstador
Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 401
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| creatures are a big part of the game. tombstalker is an amazing fit into decks like this and you can afford to play tombstalker and aeon chronicler. jace is a good card and you play her anyways but i believe a deck that wins via the mill (which also gives them as much access as they could desire to great cards) is an uphill battle. |
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-DK-
Joined: 28 Aug 2007 Posts: 36
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Check out this super tech yo. Sunken Hope + Rule Of Law + Venser is gg outside of instant speed shit =/ BUT you play blue. |
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