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Jace Beleren deck (creatureless)


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Joined: 26 Jul 2006
Posts: 78

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:21 am    Post subject: Jace Beleren deck (creatureless) Reply with quote

Could you help me with this deck making it more efficient or telling me what you all think? I believe the deck has really good potential:

4 Jace Beleren
4 Thoughtseize
4 Runesnag
3 Remove Soul
4 Broken Ambitions
4 Jester's Scepter
4 Damnation
3 Tendrils of Corruption
2 Nameless Inversion
2 Sudden Death

4 Desert
4 River of Tears
3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
4 Underground River
4 Island
5 Swamp
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Black_Dog



Joined: 29 Sep 2006
Posts: 173

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would...

-1 Broken Ambition
-1 Remove Soul
-3 Tendrills of Corruption
-2 Nameless Inversion
-1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
-4 River of Tears

+1 Dread
+2 Liliana Vess
+2 Traumatize
+2 Terror
+3 Terramorphic Expanse
+2 Dreadship Reef

If you want to win by Milling, then run Traumatize. Add Liliana Vess for card fetch, then discard and an alternate win condition. Lose Nameless for Terror cause it kills bigger things and if it cant you have Sudden Death/Damnation. Add in Dread (I know he's a creature) but he rocks and fits nicely here. 3 Terramorphic thins out your deck but makes it a tad slower but speed aint your thing. Dreadship Reef for added help to your mana.
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Jacois



Joined: 05 Sep 2004
Posts: 721

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And 1 Urza's Factory
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Mirage



Joined: 31 Jan 2006
Posts: 114

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like this deck, but I'd try Tombstalker.
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Lenin



Joined: 23 Jan 2007
Posts: 87

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

face it! jace is way to weake to build a dec around him
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Joined: 26 Jul 2006
Posts: 78

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:48 am    Post subject: Jace is amazing Reply with quote

Jace is NOT way too weak!!! He is comprable to Garruk, though his potential has not been discovered. In this deck the first two Jaces are used only to dig to your third (finishing) Jace. It is great card advantage and a finisher.
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Spyx



Joined: 31 Oct 2004
Posts: 1031

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so you basically roll over and die to pithing needle? i'd run profane command so you have a least one other win condition.
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Joined: 26 Jul 2006
Posts: 78

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: pithing needle Reply with quote

good point on pithing needle
I could remove deserts i think and run white for oblivion ring and for SB. also whoule allow Teferi's moat in SB
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lennin
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you need some sort of card draw
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Noremac



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Posts: 97

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because Jace isn't card draw......
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lennin
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you need more than that to draw into stuff, and jace draws your opps cards also
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surelock



Joined: 01 May 2006
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

May as well use Howling Mine and Rites of Flourishing if you are going to mill them to death. And the blue card that gives you 2 extra turns as well, do not recall the name.
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Lynolf



Joined: 25 Aug 2007
Posts: 382

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried Forced Fruition in some mill decks and believe me, that card is INSANE!!!!! Too bad you're not running white, Rule of Law would be really handy too.
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Conkisstador



Joined: 08 Sep 2004
Posts: 401

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

creatures are a big part of the game. tombstalker is an amazing fit into decks like this and you can afford to play tombstalker and aeon chronicler. jace is a good card and you play her anyways but i believe a deck that wins via the mill (which also gives them as much access as they could desire to great cards) is an uphill battle.
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-DK-



Joined: 28 Aug 2007
Posts: 36

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out this super tech yo. Sunken Hope + Rule Of Law + Venser is gg outside of instant speed shit =/ BUT you play blue.
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