so my version of 43.dec

Delicious · Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 464

i added some non-lands to see how it worked and it works pretty well. i would liek some feedback and see what you think. it rapes control but gets beaten by aggro and burn.

the main thing i wanted to know ishow i can cut costs on the deck. i have started building it and you can guess which card si don't have.

i only have 1 taber, 2 maze of ith and no tropics. mishra's were a bitch to get Razz

. so you guys think breeding pools would be a cheaper way to get the UG, or what do you guys have to say, for the deck and getting it cheaper Very Happy

// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
4 [DK] Maze of Ith
4 [4E] Mishra's Factory
3 [LG] Karakas
3 [LG] The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
3 [10E] Forest (1)
3 [10E] Treetop Village
3 [B] Tropical Island
2 [PLC] Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 [TE] Wasteland
2 [TE] Ancient Tomb
2 [OD] Deserted Temple
2 [TE] Island (1)
2 [ON] Wooded Foothills
1 [TSP] Vesuva
1 [CHK] Boseiju, Who Shelters All

// Spells
4 [SH] Horn of Greed
3 [EX] Manabond
3 [NE] Daze
3 [SH] Mulch
3 [RAV] Life from the Loam
3 [US] Exploration
3 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top
2 [GP] Leyline of Singularity
2 [WL] Mana Web
2 [SH] Burgeoning

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [LG] Karakas
SB: 1 [LG] The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
SB: 3 [10E] Forest (1)
SB: 2 [TE] Ancient Tomb
SB: 2 [TSP] Vesuva
SB: 2 [CHK] Boseiju, Who Shelters All
SB: 2 [GP] Leyline of Singularity
SB: 2 [IA] Glacial Chasm

leyline of singularity + karkas= amazing

urborg + mana web= must tap

so your views?

and maybe i am missing something very important. i'd like to know that also Very Happy

thanks guys <3

Black_Dog · Joined: 29 Sep 2006 Posts: 165

I don't play this deck and decks like these get killed from a blood moon or magus of the moon.

regardless.

I think you should throw in some graveyard control in your SB. Like 4. This is 1.5. Leyline of the Void or Tormod's. Theirs even a land where you can transmute for 0 to fetch for it...ya need 2 blue though :/

But that and then a Zuron Orb for when you need to buy time for your lock.

Delicious · Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 464

i like the 2 blue idea, i alittle blue, which i frequently draw into

and the zuran's orb is a beautiful idea

if i play with zuran, you think i should sideboard crucible?

R3wind · Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 927

Life from the Loam is the standard tool of choice for the deck. 2-3 in the main is what most players use. As you already run that I do not think that you need CoW. Research/Development fetched from the side with Glittering Wish or Cunning Wish helps protect you from Crainial Extraction/Extirpate. Also it can provide an alt win (if they give you EOT tokens). Heck at the worst it gives you three free dredge with Loam in the yard.

As for the side I would side 4 Lightning Bolt to kill Magus of the Moon in the Survilal/Goblin matchup. Emerald Charm/Krosan Grip for Blood Moon and random bad things.

I hope this helps.

PS is Cunning Wish banned in 1.5???

Delicious · Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 464

i like the idea of running firebolts ad enchant hate in the sideboard

and cunnign wish isn't banned at all

R3wind · Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 927

I am guessing that Horn of Greed is taking the place of Standstill?

Delicious · Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 464

yea, i liked it alittle bt better while testing

lennin · Guest

this just seems like a terrible version of 43 land why is this better, like sbing in more lands wtf this seems rly bad and how is boseiju good for them to not counter loam wow good plan Confused

Delicious · Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 464

thanks lennin for your unproductive criticism, it helped me alot and making my deck better...

and s o address your "concerns":

the sideboard is a litte messed up, you are right. if you look, they are strategic lands that maybe i will need more of, lets say they are running a deck with only a few creatures, do i need so many maze of iths?

and about boseiju, if maybe you actually read the deck, there are more non-land cards in there, my horn of greed's i would like to keep around, to draw into combos and vs. control when i couple urborg and mana web, they can't leave some mana open to counter some things.

and what is so wrong about having loam not countered?

so again lennin, thank you very much for opening your mouth, and letting your stupidity fall out

Delicious · Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 464

SB: 1 [LG] Karakas
SB: 2 [TSP] Vesuva
SB: 2 [CHK] Boseiju, Who Shelters All
SB: 2 [GP] Leyline of Singularity
SB: 2 [IA] Glacial Chasm
SB: 4 [4E] Lightning Bolt
SB: 2 [TSP] Krosan Grip

this is the sideboard changes because of some help.

i also:
-1 mulch
-1 manabond

+2 cunning wish

R3wind · Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 927

I would cut the Vesuva in the side for Island. You can wish for them with Living Wish or Dredge for then in game two with Loam.

I would like to see Pithing Needle in the side as it owns a lot of cards. I still think that you need at least one Research/Development in the side as a Cunning Wish target.

I would run four Exploration in the main also. If you can fit one or two more Cunning Wish that would round out the deck more. Living Wish would also be great! I would say 3 of both in the deck would give you more options. That would give you the room to make more of a wish board. You know more one of cards in the side for tutoring.

One Academy Ruins would be great to protuc your Horn of Greed...

Delicious · Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 464

wow r3wind, i thought research/devel was a different card

so th side again has ahcanged alittle bit more because of it, here it is

-2 vesuva
-2 glacial chasm
-1 leyline

+2 islands
+1 research/developement
+2 pithing needles

SB: 1 [LG] Karakas
SB: 2 [TE] Island (1)
SB: 2 [CHK] Boseiju, Who Shelters All
SB: 1 [GP] Leyline of Singularity
SB: 4 [4E] Lightning Bolt
SB: 2 [TSP] Krosan Grip
SB: 1 [DIS] Research/Development
SB: 2 [10E] Pithing Needle