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Help me be a better Conspiracy Advocate.



 
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Which of the follow is easist to accept/understand/belive without the mainsteam labling it as "nut job" conspiracy theory while still being effective for my cause?
9/11 Truth Movement
11%
 11%  [ 2 ]
The Federal Reserve is a Private Entity
11%
 11%  [ 2 ]
Corporate control of the Food Supply
23%
 23%  [ 4 ]
Tesla's hidden technology
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
RFDI Tracking chips 666 the mark of the beast
11%
 11%  [ 2 ]
CIA Corruption/MK Ultra
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Trans Texas Corridor and the North American Union Leading to the NWO.
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
JFK Assissination
11%
 11%  [ 2 ]
ChemTrails.
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Too much to read or I don't care to begin with *very popular choice*
23%
 23%  [ 4 ]
Total Votes : 17

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Hank333



Joined: 23 Oct 2006
Posts: 218
Location: San Antoni

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:26 pm    Post subject: Help me be a better Conspiracy Advocate. Reply with quote

There are a lot of idea’s out there that can be put in the “conspiracy theories” category. I personally believe great deals of them have a lot of truth in them, and people just do not know enough to begin to understand them. To make matters even more complicated, there is an element of “disinformation” injected into the stream of ideas related to these “conspiracy theories” in an effort to throw people off the sent of the truth. A good example has to do with 9/11. These days if you start to delve into the theories related to the 9/11 truth movement, you will hear things like no planes even hit the towers. This is an example of disinformation. We all know planes hit the towers, the perpetrators of this disinformation will try to convince you that there video’s of the towers being hit are fake, and that something else hit them. It’s a distraction, to undermine the legitimate of the 9/11 truth movement. Now I am not going to delve into every single piece of information vs. disinformation, because I do not know it all. Instead, I am choosing to briefly comment on many wildly different “conspiracy theories” in order to show a pattern of intent to control every aspect of our lives by some group in a very high level of power. You may believe me, you may not, I simply ask that you delve into these issues knowing that there will be truth and lies in each one, and that finding the real truth is very difficult, and in order to find it, you must understand ALL the “conspiracy theories” and piece the pieces together. A lot of people say things like “I don’t have time to look into all this, I’ve got work, school, wife, kids, ect., ect.” Well if you want to be spoon fed lies by Fox News and CNN, go ahead, but I know there is a contingent out there who really wants the truth, who does not trust the media, who do not trust our history books, and they do not know what to do. I do not know what to do other then be informed, and to try to inform as many people as possible.
So here is my list of a bunch of Conspiracies, that a small bit of info about each one in order to get you on track to see the big picture.
-9/11 truth movement. Free Fall speed of the buildings(not physically possible), Building number 7, and the multiple war games going on simultaneously as 9/11 happened which prevented any defense of the United States.
-The Federal Reserve. The central bank of the United States is NOT “federal” and has no reserves. It is a private business which makes money for its private investors, and creates money out of thin air. It is destroying the American Economy. Look up “the creature from Jekyll Island.”
-Control of our food supply. Genetically engineering foods without knowledge of what we are truly doing. Breaking the 2000 year chain of Agriculture with brand new Agriculture techniques which threaten to run every non-commercial farmer into the ground, and make every commercial farmed %100 reliant on giant corporations. Watch “The Future of Food” on you tube.
-The Corrupted CIA. Torturing Citizens. Inventing crack and introducing it to inner cities. Americas Hardest drug dealer. Massive Public mind control projects. Look up things like Project Paper Clip, MK Ultra, CIA Crack Connection, and Mind Wars.
-Nicola Tesla. He invented a free, wireless energy source which could power our entire society for a very low cost. In addition, he invented many very important inventions we use today and had many of them stolen in the name of Greed.
-JFK assassination. It is another version of 9/11. Very important since he wanted to shut down the CIA, the Federal Reserve, and to pull out of Vietnam.
-ChemTrails. You have seen them, they want you to believe they are Contrails, but Contrails disappear in a matter of a minute or so. Chemtrails are a massive government operation, and they spread a lot of heavy metals and other mysterious agents into the air. They will stay up in the clouds for hours and some days they will line your entire sky line. For what reason? I do not know.
-The New World Order. A one world government. It is on the back of the American Dollar bill in Latin. George Bush (1) mentioned it 9/11/1991 in a speech to congress. It will be the highest authority of the planet, if you like big government, you will love this, and it will be the biggest (and only) government. It will not have to answer to anyone.
-The Trans Texas Corridor. A tolled super highway which will stretch from Mexico to Canada and help create the North American Union. That is a step towards The New world order. TexDot has lied many times in an attempt to make it happen, but they have been tripped up in there own web on lies. Let us make sure that TexDot stays down.
-RFDI Tracking chips. They want these in every person. Eventually they will want them on every item we buy, from flour to our cars. They want to be able to track every move we make.
-Alien Technology. They hide new technologies from us so that they can stifle our intellectual growth and control us. From free energy to zero gravity devices, there is tons of technology that it hidden from us.

I guess that is enough to get you started. There is a lot of information out there. Some of it is fake, but it is to throw you off the sent of the truth.
I post all this to get an idea as to what angel i should take in order to help shed some light on this complicated and taboo subject. I hoped i helped, or i hope you help!!!
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Jacois



Joined: 05 Sep 2004
Posts: 457

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I skipped your whole post. I, like most ML'ers, have little patience for long posts. Cut it down and I might read it because it seems interesting. Not interesting enought to read it all though.

Though this may seem like a random flame, it is reality, and I speak the truth. Attack your cause in a more easily readable way.
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Avata



Joined: 03 Dec 2006
Posts: 372

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's worth reading. I especially like the part where he claims some nutjob conspiracies are true, while other (equally nutjob) conspiracies are carefully placed screens to discredit other theories - in short, "if they agree with me, they're looking for the truth, if they don't agree, they're nuts and/or just trying to discredit me."
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HUNGTACTICS



Joined: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 135

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about the illuminati
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RichardDWade



Joined: 20 Mar 2006
Posts: 438

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, you're on a list now. So, for the record, I think its all just a bunch of hooey... Wink
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Craze



Joined: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 5378
Location: Indiana, U

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avata wrote:
It's worth reading. I especially like the part where he claims some nutjob conspiracies are true, while other (equally nutjob) conspiracies are carefully placed screens to discredit other theories - in short, "if they agree with me, they're looking for the truth, if they don't agree, they're nuts and/or just trying to discredit me."


"Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me"
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ILikeBananas



Joined: 01 Aug 2006
Posts: 144

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure I can help you.

The best advice I can give is....DON'T WRITE LONG ESSAYS ON INTERNET FORUMS. The sight of a big chunk of text coming from someone who might be high or drunk scares people you know?
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cloysterd



Joined: 24 Jan 2007
Posts: 49

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got any Bigfoot stories you'd like to share while we're here?
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gumonshoe



Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Posts: 433

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there was an engineer from Georgia who came up with a way to completly recycle "toxic waste" completly and the reason he is not a multi millionare (other than the fact he passed a week ago,) is because its cheaper for the usa to truck it to mexico and dump it there... but nobody has really heard about that
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BigShow



Joined: 07 Apr 2005
Posts: 1312
Location: Igloo town

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are thousand of sub categories, but it will all relate to power, and where does power come from? Government. stick with that
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sc4rs



Joined: 23 Mar 2006
Posts: 395

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
if you want to be spoon fed lies by Fox News and CNN, go ahead, but I know there is a contingent out there who really wants the truth


Watch ABC News?

Seriously, there is no grand conspiracy across all the major media sources. If you watch your news on multiple different news stations that are owned by different companies, for example, their interests are conflicting, and they are extremely likely to fill in most, if not all, of the big picture.

Regardless of if what you're insinuating is true or not (which I doubt on every single count, for various reasons), there's a social psychological answer for the reason people like you refuse to accept logical explanations and believe there to be a "grand conspiracy:" because the human brain likes putting patterns where there are none. This is the root of many problems in our society (racism, sexism, xenophobia, religious warfare) as well as many of our greatest achievements (for example, Einstein's theory of relativity came about as he was trying to find underlying patterns to unify energy with a description of matter).

If you refuse to accept your own shortcomings, the truth you find will be just as false as the truth you're given.
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Hank333



Joined: 23 Oct 2006
Posts: 218
Location: San Antoni

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, looking at it now, it is too essayish. But it’s a lot of information to absorb. I need to trim the fat.

I did forget the illuminati, dang.

I cannot believe some one admitted to liking it. And the poll isn't 99% "don't want to read" which I find impressing and encouraging.

Now Mr. Pro ABC news, I don't understand your point. Our media is blatantly bias. Fox News is republican, CNN is a democratic. Are you saying ABC is in the middle? I don't believe in the simplicity of the Left wing vs. Right wing mentality. It is a trap; they are 2 sides to the same problem. Its a scam, a ruse. Now if you believe the Red vs. Blue is the way it is meant to be, you are small minded, the world is not so black and white. The Man wants you to play that Red vs. Blue game though, and try’s to make you believe its real.
There are so many sub categories to conspiracies that you can't diffuse them all saying "its just my imagination." Look at the facts. I mean look at Tesla and what was done to him. Or look at the fact the John Kerry and George Bush will admit they are both part of the same Secrect Society. You are to tell me that these are nothing to worry about?
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Apos



Joined: 24 May 2005
Posts: 733

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow nice too see it here
its all over the internet in every bigforum
people tend to question how the holocaust happened but what we do?I dont want to be mentioned as dumb lazy coward civillian who didnt care in the history books do you?you need to realize we are in a holocaust or a beginning of it
9/11 was an inside job, 7.7. london bombings was an inside job, every major terrorist attack was an inside job, JFK was not murdered by the patty just look the footage the car actually drives slow so the sniper/s have easy job, yes they founded cancer virus and diabetes virus and other disease and mercury in the vaccines, it was an accident yea sure an accident!,aids was created to own africa as where dictatorships all over the world, guantalamo and abu graif and allot more and fema camps buid in usa , modern martial law all over the place well i didnt even started yet global warming made by human is a big fraud! volcanos produce 100 times more co2 then humans btw. plants breath co2 but no you keep lumber all the wood instead of just use hemp for paper but no its a big danger huge drug its gona kill you ... but yes the gouverment does ships most of the drugs in and yes there is no law for federal reserve stealing your money and yes most of the people in jail are innacent and yes those shool massacres where probably black op operations and yes its a key indicator that in tyranny they first take the folks weapons like they do in the usa now and yes it was always for the safty and yes the military crushes the balls of children infront of their parents in iraq and yes they do rape them with big objects and acid on it and yes they say it on television that they do that and its good they say and yes the illuminati exist and they dont just have 1 submarine boat they have an armada of em Very Happy and yes that was a smiley unbelieveble isnt it and yes we gona have a world gouverment soon as possible world carbon tax comes first, world religion and allot of dead protesting against it well i could go on and on its jsut fraud after fraud after fraud what we get
inform yourself inform others get active power to the people
look alex jones movies(terrorstorm, endgame,American Dictators, america freedom to facism, 9/11 road to tyranny, martial law ... all for free on google video) and alex jones report(way better then fox news or cnn news or bbc or whateva) copy his movies for free(and legal) burn as many copies as you want and give them other peoples to look
also there are allot of other good movies wich are a musstsee for every human
Earthlings, The Freedom of Choice or Freiheit der Wahl if you wanna see it in german uhm Zeitgeist uhm John Pilger movies uhm well all for free on google video stream or download and there is allot more just wake up zombies wake up wake up wake up
KIKIRIKI! lol



Infowars.com
Infokrieg.de

edit: oh did i forgot to mention vote fraud rite now and back then or those childrape pervert rings in the gouverment and cops saying: ''oh well maybe the boys liked it.''
dont believe me ? just google it or police that sprays pepper spray on a baby just type police spray baby in google well just look at this http://youtube.com/watch?v=8GdJ_NtnCdY
and this is really a just a funny joke if compared to what is really going on rite now

btw. i voted for the food thing
usa always wanted to be ''on the top of the foodchain'' now they are just making it perfect
and yea i always say usa makes this usa made that i actually mean the mafia kartell wich owns this country call em illuminati ,skull and bones, bilderberg group whateva you like one is for sure they are brutal controll freaks.
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