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R/W Control Works great


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ycedi



Joined: 14 Aug 2007
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:09 am    Post subject: R/W Control Works great Reply with quote

I been testing this deck and it works really great I have some problem with the sideboard but the idea is great.
// Lands
2 [JGC] Gemstone Mine
4 [TSP] Flagstones of Trokair
4 [LRW] Ancient Amphitheater
4 [10E] Battlefield Forge
1 [CHK] Mountain (1)
2 [10E] Quicksand
5 [UG] Plains

// Creatures
4 [TSP] Greater Gargadon
2 [LRW] Brion Stoutarm

// Spells
4 [PLC] Dead/Gone
4 [LRW] Oblivion Ring
4 [10E] Wrath of God
4 [FUT] Coalition Relic
4 [PLC] Boom/Bust
4 [10E] Mind Stone
1 [TSP] Foriysian Totem
3 [TSP] Thunder Totem
4 [PLC] Mana Tithe

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [LRW] Brion Stoutarm
SB: 4 [TSB] Disenchant
SB: 4 [10E] Condemn
SB: 3 [TSP] Tivadar of Thorn
SB: 2 [LRW] Austere Command

Ok the deck Idea is to make kind of Bust gargadon combo for the win. You can cast bust preatty fast With coalition, Mind, and totems. Your Wining conditions are Gargadons, Giant, and totems, after the bust. Mana tithte is very usefull now with tones of agrro decks, dead/gone good agianst gargadon, Oblivion ring good agianst everything ^^ but plainswalkers over all
Plz if you have any idea just tell me ok??


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Craze



Joined: 30 Jan 2005
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Location: Indiana, U

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

-4 totems
+4 temperal isolation

isloation has saved my ass soo many times. Not to mention, black and white totems kinda suck
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Spyx



Joined: 31 Oct 2004
Posts: 1188

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^Agreed, but then add at least 1 disintegrate as an extra win condition.
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thedarkness



Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 581

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stick an Isolation on an attacking Gargadon then Fling it with damage on the stack. That seems cute.
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DaShakAttack



Joined: 09 Sep 2004
Posts: 33

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what happends on the games you don't draw boom/bust on? just lose?
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tcook589



Joined: 26 Oct 2005
Posts: 64

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Restore balance much?
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ycedi



Joined: 14 Aug 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aggroman wrote:
what happends on the games you don't draw boom/bust on? just lose?


You can win with gargadon or with Giant theres plenty of control creture there so is not Bust or loose deck, but if you get to cast bust Is a sure win
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Spyx



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't recommend playing legacy with this...

http://www.magic-league.com/tournament/info.php?id=37405&view=decks

A T2 deck won though Laughing
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Craze



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Location: Indiana, U

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spyx wrote:
I wouldn't recommend playing legacy with this...

http://www.magic-league.com/tournament/info.php?id=37405&view=decks

A T2 deck won though Laughing


hmm can you say lucksack? xD
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 2325

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ycedi wrote:
Aggroman wrote:
what happends on the games you don't draw boom/bust on? just lose?


You can win with gargadon or with Giant theres plenty of control creture there so is not Bust or loose deck, but if you get to cast bust Is a sure win


... unless the opponent have more and/or bigger creatures in play Rolling Eyes
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kj_4247



Joined: 15 Apr 2007
Posts: 26

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two word: Barren Glory
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ycedi



Joined: 14 Aug 2007
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vedrfolner wrote:
ycedi wrote:
Aggroman wrote:
what happends on the games you don't draw boom/bust on? just lose?


You can win with gargadon or with Giant theres plenty of control creture there so is not Bust or loose deck, but if you get to cast bust Is a sure win


... unless the opponent have more and/or bigger creatures in play Rolling Eyes


WOG maybe??? ¬¬
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 2325

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ycedi wrote:
Vedrfolner wrote:
ycedi wrote:
Aggroman wrote:
what happends on the games you don't draw boom/bust on? just lose?


You can win with gargadon or with Giant theres plenty of control creture there so is not Bust or loose deck, but if you get to cast bust Is a sure win


... unless the opponent have more and/or bigger creatures in play Rolling Eyes


WOG maybe??? ¬¬


it may be hard to go from zero to 4 mana while a Gargadon stomps you in the face...
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ycedi



Joined: 14 Aug 2007
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vedrfolner wrote:
ycedi wrote:
Vedrfolner wrote:
ycedi wrote:
Aggroman wrote:
what happends on the games you don't draw boom/bust on? just lose?


You can win with gargadon or with Giant theres plenty of control creture there so is not Bust or loose deck, but if you get to cast bust Is a sure win


... unless the opponent have more and/or bigger creatures in play Rolling Eyes


WOG maybe??? ¬¬


it may be hard to go from zero to 4 mana while a Gargadon stomps you in the face...

Thats why there's Artifacts and Flagstone ... you play wrath before the bust anyways...
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Vedrfolner



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ycedi wrote:
Vedrfolner wrote:
ycedi wrote:
Vedrfolner wrote:
ycedi wrote:
Aggroman wrote:
what happends on the games you don't draw boom/bust on? just lose?


You can win with gargadon or with Giant theres plenty of control creture there so is not Bust or loose deck, but if you get to cast bust Is a sure win


... unless the opponent have more and/or bigger creatures in play Rolling Eyes


WOG maybe??? ¬¬


it may be hard to go from zero to 4 mana while a Gargadon stomps you in the face...

Thats why there's Artifacts and Flagstone ... you play wrath before the bust anyways...


ok, to clarify:

this is the scenario the deck's creator is wanting: Turn 1, suspend Gargadon. The consecutive turns ramp mana and do random stuff until Bust can be played. Play bust. In resp, sac lands to Gargadon so that he enters play. Hit with Gargadon for 9, pass turn to an opponent with no lands ftw.

In other words: for this to work he needs 1 Gargadon, 1 Wrath and 1 Bust in the first 12-15 cards. In the right order, and without the opponent disrupting anything. This is the only viable scenario in which this deck can win. The idea is good, but it won't support an entire deck. When the Bust is played, the deck needs to do more than playing Gargadon, and when Bust is played, the opponent can not have a chance to answer or otherwise reboot and win. The Bust needs to be GG. If the opponent plays a control deck, it isn't.
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