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Zoom · Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 85

Tarmogoyf loves stupor.

4 Tarmogoyf
4 Augur of Skulls
2 Tombstalker
2 Twisted Abomination

4 Call of the Herd
4 Edge of Autumn
4 Stupor
3 Damnation
4 Harmonize
2 Ichor Slick
2 Slaughter Pact
2 Prismatic Lens

11 Swamp
8 Forest
4 LLanowar Reborn

sb
4 Withered Wretch
4 Seal of Primordium
3 Utopia Vow
3 Mindstab
1 Damnation

This deck has been fun to play and reasonably strong. Haven't played with it enough to evaluate matchups but it's 15-3 (estimated...know i've only lost 3, but didn't note how many i've played) against non-goldfish decks.

Eldar · Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 340 Location: Rochester

You could make this very similar to the b/g rack deck in standard that works very well.

-2 Twisted Abom
-4 Harmonize
-3 Damnation
-2 Prismatic Lens
-2 Ichor Slick
-2 Swamp
-2 Forest

+4 The Rack
+4 Smallpox
+4 Withered Wretch
+1 Slaughter Pact
+3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
+1 Pendelhaven

Sideboard:
-4 Withered Wretch
-3 Mindstab
-1 Damnation

+4 Tendrils of Corruption
+4 Extirpate
Possibly add nihilith also he is a house in block.
Riftsweeper is another option here however suspend is getting smaller as it is getting hated out more and more this is a meta call.

This is only if you want to be more like the rack deck in standard. It seems you are playing an agro deck based around discard without the rack for no reason. You are also playing control main deck which seems terrible. Also there is no reason to not run urborg. Sure you will get 2 of them as your only land once in a while however being able to wasteland a deck that relies on urborg to make good tendrils is always a good thing. Plus I have you adding tendrils to your board for the agro matchups seeing as it is amazing and if you do this you might as well have urborg to make tendrils even better. Wretch is a great card to have against nasty decks that run things like teachings or reanimator that would normally benefit off your discard especially seeing as reanimator is getting better in block.

As for your sideboard tendrils is a given you should be running them at least in the board. Damnation is a control card and it would only slow you down. Extirpate is in there for those nasty teachings/reanimation matchups as they will be some of your worst matchups. It also helps to slow down tarmogoyf mirrors by making their goyfs smaller if you don't have one or removing a key card such as an enforcer.

My last suggestion would be to possibly fit in another tombstalker in place of a call normally 6 calls including flashbacks is enough. If you could fit in nihilith it may be a good idea also.

So overall here would be my list of this deck.

4-Tarmogoyf
4-Augur of Skulls
4-Withered Wretch
3-Tombstalker

3-Call of the Herd
4-Edge of Autumn
4-Stupor
3-Slaughter Pact
4-Smallpox
4-The Rack

9-Swamp
7-Forest
4-Llanowar Reborn
3-Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1-Pendelhaven

SB:
4-Tendrils of Corruption
4-Extripate
4-Seal of Primordium
3-Utopia Vow

WoodSage · Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 65

That is an interesting deck and I believe you could fit some Tarmogoyfs along Tombstalkers for fast efficient beats, but they're anti-synergetic so I'd recommend playing either only 3 Tarmogoyfs (they're only broken late anyway) or only 2 Tombstalkers like you are currently.

I like the The Rack suggestion, I'd also suggest you take a page from the monoblack aggro deck that did well in the latest TSP block tournament

http://www.magic-league.com/deck/34803/tsp_block_constructed.html#MBA23444

and run some number of Sudden Deaths. I also like Nether Traitor but not as a 4-of, and Sangrophage is quite cool and Mindslash Sliver seems techy.

Definitely take the Extirpate suggestion, but I still like 4 Calls and 2 Stalkers, and I'd keep some number of Augurs.

Zoom · Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 85

Thanks for the suggestions. I have fiddled around with rack variants in block, but I haven't had much success. Seems like either the opponent is running big blue card drawing, or their creatures are just hugely superior and outrace you. I made the deck to be a sort of flex attack that uses disruption and efficient creatures to fight control and damnation and card advantage to fight aggro. The discard in this deck serves as disruption versus control, and can cause aggro to over-commit into a juicy damnation (nothing so nice as when they play the second attacker to get around your regenerator, and then next turn you sac him for 2-1, then damnation them for 2-1.) The tarmogoyfs and tombstalkers aren't synergetic, but it's really not a been much of a problem since this deck sucks at making its own graveyard tarmogoyf friendly anyway. I've been playing a lot of decks in block that suck at making tarmogoyf good on their own, but rather leech off the opp's tarmogoyf activities and I've been liking the strategy. Sudden death will probably replace ichor slick as soon as i convince myself for the billionth time that they're better. I'm just addicted to keywords.

KeySam · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 491

Instead of tombstalker you should play nihilist, dont play edge of antumn without flagstones it just cut your mana base and their are better fixings if you want the fixers. You could play Horizion Cantopy as a bad forest and play defenatly terremorhpic expanse...

dboy1 · Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 149

WoodSage · Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 65

[quote="dboy1]ROFL...tarm only good late AHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAA[/quote]

I meant they're only broken late in this deck. I mean, you like 0/1 beaters?

Let's see:

- this deck doesn't run Terramorphic Expanse or Canopy, so no lands

- there won't be a creature in the Gy on your side unless you cycle an Abomination or sac an Augur, which means you aren't playing Tarmogoyf turn 2 anyway

- you want to play Stupor ASAP, so you won't be playing the Goyf on turn 3 either if all goes according to plan.

So: in this deck you're going to ideally cast Goyf on turns 4 or later. Is that your definition of early game? QED.

BTW I played a Goyf deck at Sunday's PTQ and ended up 5-2, so I do know what I'm saying. You might want to check my trial decklists and see I am a decent deckbuilder and can win with my own creations.