PX + Court Hussar

mandanglelow · Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 99

If i'm playing Project X and i'm about to combo off and my opponents only 3 > CC creature in his graveyard is court husssar, do the abilities of Court hussar make my opponent deck himself? i Figured it worked like this...

Champ comes into play...

Put Crypt Champ's sac ability on the stack, then put his bring creature back ability on stack... in resp we sac Saffi...

Champs bring back ability triggers and Saffi and Hussar come back. Hussars abilitys go on the stack and my opponent gets a card and two on bottom of his library, then hussar dies. champs sacrifice ability goes and saffi brings him back...

does it work that way??? thanks for all help!!

thedarkness · Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 459

I'm pretty sure that, by the same token that you don't need to find a land with a Rampant Growth, or four cards with a Gifts Ungiven, you can just pretend that there aren't any cards in your top 3 cards.

THEN AGAIN, also by the same logic, nothing is stopping your opponent from just not returning the Hussar to play. :\

mandanglelow · Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 99

Well both of the cards you named say, "Search your library..." court hussar says, "Look at the top 3 cards and put one into your hand". i'm not sure if thats different because you can search and not find something, but looking at the top 3 is kinda hard not to do. and with the not bring him back into play, i was lead to believe that he had to if there was a legal target for crypt champion. if champ said may bring back into play, then i would understand, but the wording on champ makes it seem like he has to bring a creature back.

ronjeremyjr · Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 42

If a player has an applicable creature then they must return it to play. Similarly with the Court Hussar. When they get down to less than three cards they just look at however many are left and choose one, so in this way you can "deck them". However, it's worth noting that they don't actually lose until they can't draw, which isn't something the Court Hussar does, he has them put their card into their hand, a significant difference. So essentially you'd win, unless they had something really wacky on their upkeep.

Haro · Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 236

plus crypt champion's return effect is may so they can stop recurring court hussar.

ronjeremyjr · Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 42

Crypt Champion's return effect is not may...look at what I just said in my post. It's in the Dissension FAQ, if there is a creature your opponent could return THEY MUST RETURN IT.

Korniswins · Joined: 09 Oct 2005 Posts: 31

If they have court hussar in the GY, you probably lose unless they are playing plain blue/white with no instant disruption. Basically they get to sift through their entire deck looking for an answer to your combo, as you are comboing off. You will never hit infinite because each time you gain your life your opponent gets to draw. Assuming he is playing lightning helix or even repeal he can disrupt your combo after you have already started comboing.

sc4rs · Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 389

Unless they're tapped out, in which case you win when they hit their draw step.

mandanglelow · Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 99

yea, its not something that will happen all the time, but it will help. even if you can get half their deck gone and just stall them the rest of the way. and if they are tapped out... its almost GG unless like ronjeremyjr said, they have some really weird upkeep...

kfcman · Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 665

HUNGTACTICS · Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 135

yeah but they can just draw something that can disrupt the combo Razz

str8 · Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Posts: 10

you dont have to get a card from the top 3 cards that you look with court hussar. You can "fail" to find a card.

ronjeremyjr · Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 42

I have to disagree. If you're searching through a library for something you can fail to find a card. If you're looking at three or less cards there's no way you can "fail" to find one...there's no restriction on which one you have to take, the only restriction is that a card's there to begin with.

Hardtrack · Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 268

You can only 'fail to find' if you're searching for a card. If it doesn't use the word search, the following rule does not apply. And even if you are searching you can only fail to find something of a given quality and since Court Hussar does not specify any qualities, you couldn't fail even if you were searching.

Search
If you’re required to search a zone not revealed to all players for cards of a given quality, such as type or color, you aren’t required to find some or all of those cards even if they’re present; however, if you do choose to find cards, you must reveal those cards to all players. Even if you don’t find any cards, you are still considered to have searched the zone.
If you’re simply searching for a quantity of cards, such as “a card” or “three cards,” you must find that many cards (or as many as possible). These cards often aren’t revealed.
Example: If an effect causes you to search a player’s library for all duplicates of a particular card and remove them from the game, you may choose to leave some of them alone, but if an effect causes you to search your library for three cards and it contains at least three, you can’t choose less than three.