Ridiculous Ruling ? Or Am I at Fault??

AkYo · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 177

haro i have been to a few major events and plan on participating at regionals.. and i understand when you present the deck but maybe you didn't read the situation correctly... it would not happen the same way at all it was simply the program on the website.. and me miscounting by 2 land cards.. i added 6 mountain 6 swamp instead of 7 / 7 and obviously it was a simple mistake that could have been changed

kby · Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 142

so simple yet.. you were the only one to make it

Wurly · Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 37

While I don't really like the game loss rule either, the "this won't happen in real life" argument doesnt seem valid. If you submit a limited decklist without 40 cards at a GP or PT, I believe you get a gameloss when you are deck checked.

Furthermore, as niknight stated, as soon as you connect to your opponent, that action is considered the start of the match. So basically it is near the equivalent of submitting your deck to your opponent. If you submit a 38 card deck to your opponent at a GP or PT, that is cause for a game loss as well. I'm sure 90% of the people don't read the rules (myself included) but as they are there, there is no argument to be made.

DS_McWerp · Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 78

Goji · Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Posts: 102

DS_McWerp

Joined: 15 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
I asked niknight not to give him a gameloss for it. And he still did. Therefore, I am ****.

Guy asks me how he re-submits, I ask in j4u, they give him gameloss for it, and hes mad at me. What a tard.

And twilight, I was more mad at you about game 2 with that enslave. Game 3 i kept a bad hand cuz I didnt care anymore. My deck was fucking terrible. And, you conceded in game 1, after you were out of cards and I had the board totally under control.

And twilight, that was in limited4you. I can do what I want to you in there

yep just like I can 2 cause im & there... your akicked for a day for banning someone without sufficent cause. Good Day.

Buffalo_Wing · Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 138

Hey guys I have the most access in lim4you. Maybe I'll akick everyone forever.

mTk-Away · Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 59

First of all, it was me who gave the original ruling for Game Loss. Other judges just confirmed it, so don't blame them for the original decision.

I'm sorry you're upset for having your first sealed mini go down, but as others have stated earlier, the rules are same for everyone and we'll follow them.

Mirage · Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 85

But mostly you should know what you're doing.

DS_McWerp · Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 78

Silly goji, trix are for kids.

jawsthehobo · Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 4

Haro, no, i agree that people need to get gamelosses for these type of things. What I'm really trying to get at, is that DS really is a dhady character, at least when I play against him. Maybe he was having a bad day when I played him, but man did he get pissed for no apparent reason. I just wished that he would be nicer, since, you know, he's a judge, and helps run ML.

jawsthehobo · Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 4

Haro, no, i agree that people need to get gamelosses for these type of things. What I'm really trying to get at, is that DS really is a dhady character, at least when I play against him. Maybe he was having a bad day when I played him, but man did he get pissed for no apparent reason. I just wished that he would be nicer, since, you know, he's a judge, and helps run ML.

Ashmatan · Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 42

1. There is a card counter in the sealed system so you should never lose count of your cards. It's in plain sight so you shouldn't miss it.

2. You just learned rule #1 of playing on m-l: if it can be rules cheesed for a win, it WILL be cuz people are too obsessed w/ their rating for some reason. The ONLY reason I can even think of to care are the 1700+ minis/trials/masters? And for what? To play against even bigger dickheads? You guys can have it. I'm dying to meet some of these assholes in real life at a GP or a PTQ so I can kick their teeth in in magic or in real REAL life. I don't care. Trust me. I wouldn't draw wrong, look at the wrong amount of cards, put them in the wrong place, come with an incorrect amount of cards, forget about cards in either hand or graveyard, misclick the mouse or anything else that would prevent me from BEATING THE FACE! ( Think I've been through this before? )

3. Bottom line: m-l players for the most part do not favor the uninformed. They do not help the uninformed. Their only intention is to bend over and cornhole the uninformed in EVERY way possible. There are a few good souls out there left though few and far between.

4. DS--this is at you...if you want people to respect you, you get it by being reasonable and fair BEFORE, beating their face DURING, and by being gracious AFTER. And definitely NOT boasting about it like you are some god. NOT by going to judges about the absolutely dumbest shit when it can be resolved easily CONSIDERING THE ROUND HADN'T STARTED YET!!! Which is the most stand-out fact in front of me. SCREW THE RULES ABOUT CONNECTION. If you connected, the match has officially begun BLAH, BLAH, BLAH BULLSHIT!!!
Since when don't you, in real life, have time to find your seat and get your stuff out and ready to play in the time alotted when pairings are posted, greet your opponent, wish him/her GL, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE EVERYTHING NEEDED, and WAIT for the judge to say the match may begin??? The start time for the match was NOT called as of yet, and for you to go to judges shows your character. You saw another free win coming and took full advantage of it. Just saying something would cause a commotion, so whether or not you argued "for" him is irrelevant. You mentioned it cuz you wanted the win and you were aware of the rule and wanted to take advantage of his ignorance. Puhlease. What a class act.

Fanboy · Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 424

Unfortunately you have to deal with it. I get dicked out of wins all the time in trials by jackasses pulling similar tricks. You just gotta make sure you don't do the same thing again and always talk to a judge prior to doing any move.

However the mods will probably change your post so that it doesn't revela a name, as when I used to come screaming on the forums everytime some **** robbed me of a deserved win, the mods made me censor that.

I think we should be able to have an ethics score chart for player, some people are out of control with how often they pull this shit and specifically when they do this...like that that on guy with the 1850+ rating that knocked me out of top 8 in the masters with an equally fucked up move. You know who you are...****

DS_McWerp · Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 78

Sigh, all the judges, who were there, agree with the ruling. I didnt. I argued that it was wrong. I said it was too harsh, and he shouldnt be given a gameloss. Therefore, I am the one whose fault it is, and I am the one who went fishing for a gameloss.

Oh, and if cared about being respected by people like ashmatan and fanboy and twilight and akyo, maybe I'd find this thread disturbing. I actually find it quite hilarious.

TugaChampion · Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 346

Wow! I'm surprised that this hasn't been locked yet. Usually topics like this are locked before even reaching 2 pages!

And I'm also surprised I'm not in the top10's most hate DS list!