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coolcreep
Joined: 18 Feb 2006
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| I am of the order of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. All those sinners who worship this "god" and arrogantly believe they are built in the image of the great One shall be destroyed. Only those that recognize the supremecy of the Flying Spaghetti Monster shall be saved from eternal damnation in Italy. Not today's beautiful Italy, no, an Italy made to reap what it has sowed by feasting on the same material that our great One chose to take it's form in. Repent! Repent! We are in the darkest of times, and only through submission to the great One can we be saved from tidal waves of tomato sauce and huge, frozen meatballs falling from the sky! The Flying Spaghetti Monster is god, and Dr. Atkins is his Prophet! At the eve of the apocalypse he will be resurrected and will take his throne as the leader of men under the great One! REPENT I TELL YOU! REPENT! |
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RichardDWade
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| Its about time someone referenced the flying spaghetti monster... and what about the church of the subgenius. All religions are extremely silly or serious in a relative sort of way. |
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nasa
Joined: 09 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| could god make a boulder so heavy not even he could lift it? |
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Hank333
Joined: 23 Oct 2006
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Location: San Antoni
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| nasa wrote: | | could god make a boulder so heavy not even he could lift it? |
Well i would say no, not a regular boulder, he would have to create a god proof boulder, and not being able to lift it wouldn't really have anything to do with its weight, and that question was already asked in this thread. Plus, god would automaticly have some sort of contigencey where he would change space and time in order to be able to lift it, if he really needed too.
And fuck, giant flying frozen meatballs... tsunamis of tomato sauce, sounds delisoiusly devistating. |
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Malhavoc
Joined: 21 Sep 2004
Posts: 156
Location: Italy
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:31 am Post subject: |
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| nasa wrote: | | could god make a boulder so heavy not even he could lift it? |
Nice question. The real question behind it however is: did God make physics laws which bind him too? In short, do miracles exist?
Answer: as any other religious question, it is impossible to answer, after all I'm atheist!  |
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VacancyMan
Joined: 01 May 2005
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| nasa wrote: | | could god make a boulder so heavy not even he could lift it? |
I think I've summoned a unique answer, as I have not seen it anywhere else (please correct me if I'm wrong):
Assuming that by "God" you mean an all-powerful, conscious being, then the answer is not only that yes, God could create such a boulder, but that he would be compelled to do so by his own omnipotence. Take this far enough and the conclusion is that God would inevitably crush himself under his own infinite power (he would be compelled to create a universe so inhospitable/weapon so powerful/a sorrow so guilt-inducing that even "He" could not survive it. Otherwise, he would simply be unworthy of the title "Almighty"
Note, however, that God need not have the qualities one might assume him to have:
- God is not necessarily infinitely powerful
If God was not omnipotent in the traditional sense (the one that brought about the famous question above), but rather extremely powerful at least to the point that humans were unable to comprehend the magnitude of the power, then how would one tell the difference between the two? Is there a difference between the two?
- God is not necessarily a conscious being
Just because the creation of man, or the universe, or anything occured does not necessarily mean that it was a conscious action of a being. The idea of God as a judge of man or any other kind of decision-maker is easy to believe because as humans we find consciousness to be an intuitive concept. Perhaps "God" is simply an interaction of aimless natural forces whose capabilities or even existence our brains were simply not constructed to comprehend fully. I'll admit, though, that it's not as much fun that way, and it takes away some spectacular literary opportunities. |
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Goji
Joined: 09 Apr 2006
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I just have to say GOD DAMN like every person writes a 100 sentence post to this.. this is all simple.. who the fuck cares? This is a waste of my life before I go to the "end" as td says jajaja  |
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Russell_Nash
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
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Location: Burn Ward
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:21 am Post subject: |
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| Goji wrote: | | I just have to say GOD DAMN like every person writes a 100 sentence post to this.. this is all simple.. who the fuck cares? This is a waste of my life before I go to the "end" as td says jajaja |
agreed |
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Kaesh
Joined: 10 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: Re: Your belief system. |
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I have no faith in our system. Politics in America, and worldwide really, is a total failure that will lead up to world war 3 sooner or later.
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Agreed it is a total failure. However, imo it will lead to world war 3 even though it's a failure, not because of it. War between two systems indicates they work well, because it means they both defend their affairs valiantly.
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I have no faith in our religious systems. Catholicism is a joke. I believe the many people who are atheist are atheist because they see how narrow minded Christians and the likes can be and assume that if they are wrong, that there is no god. That is a trap by the devil, or whatever you call the dark side.
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I'm Catholic, and I think most of today's problems come from the separation of Church and state and other abominations of the Revolution.
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I know MTG players tend to be rather intelligent. I know intelligent people tend to put faith into science. I have little faith in science. While you can use the scientific method to determine the outcome of specific things, its limited by what us humans already know how to control, so thing we have no comprehension of are still very close to impossible to discover.
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You should familiarise yourself with the works of Julius Evola.
| Hank333 wrote: |
We humans are dumb; we need to admit that to ourselves, we are all falling into a trap. There is a small but powerful group of ultra-rich elitist leading us into a slave system called the new world order; we will be slaves to an economy, to money and the desire for worldly things.
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Wrong. The elitists don't care. The trap is set by people why try to join the elites themselves by establishing that new world order. |
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Pekken
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Estragon
Joined: 11 May 2007
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| I am a hedonist solipsist. |
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