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killsRus
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 15
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:01 pm Post subject: can some1 tell me how this works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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the hulk-flash combo....
pls tell me how it wins using kiki-jiki,carrion feeder, karmic guide combo.
and the disciple, and x mana artifact creatures.
thx. step by step pls |
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MTGmanLA
Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 84
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Enyeez
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 60
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:48 am Post subject: |
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first of all, you should be shot for making a thread with that topic.
as I see it, and this is a guess only, since I havent seen it played.
flash out a hulk, obviously cant/wont pay the cost, so you sacrifice it, fetching 4 disciples, and 7 creatures (artifacts) with 0 toughness, that will die when the hulk-ability is resolved.
dealing 7x4 damage to opponent.
the karmic guide version is more tricky.
flash hulk,
sac hulk,
fetch:
Body Snatcher
Benevolent Bodyguard
Carion Feeder
- when snatcher comes into play, discard another hulk
sac snatcher to feeder for +1+1 counter
new hulk comes into play
sac for another +1+1 counter
get karmic guide
guide gets the hulk back,
sac hulk again for kiki-jiki, and feeder
kiki-jiki-copy a karmic guide, karmic guide ability goes on the stack, sac kiki-jiki, get an untapped kiki-jiki, and repeat.
kill with any amount of hasted karmic guides.
(I think)
Last edited by Enyeez on Wed May 09, 2007 2:27 am; edited 1 time in total |
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CrippleFight
Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 65
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:05 am Post subject: |
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another way (props to scg):
Flash in Hulk.
Fetch Carrion Feeder and Karmic Guide.
Karmic Guide back the Hulk.
Sacrifice Hulk to Carrion Feeder.
Get Teardrop Kami and Kiki-Jiki.
Use Kiki-Jiki to copy Karmic Guide.
In response, sacrifice Kiki-Jiki to the Feeder.
Get back Kiki-Jiki with the Guide token.
Repeat as much as you want for a huge Carrion Feeder.
With the last Guide copy, get back Hulk and sacrifice it to the Feeder.
Get Bloodshot Cyclops.
Sacrifice Teardrop Kami to untap Kiki-Jiki.
Copy Bloodshot Cyclops with Kiki-Jiki.
Sacrifice Carrion Feeder to it. |
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DS_McWerp
Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 78
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 3:14 am Post subject: |
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| CrippleFight wrote: | | Sacrifice Teardrop Kami to untap Kiki-Jiki. |
In legacy. Teardrop kami? Someone please stop the madness...That means you R&D. |
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EQ_killa
Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 6
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:58 am Post subject: |
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| I think the bodysnacher is there just in case you draw karmic. |
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CrippleFight
Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 65
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| DS_McWerp wrote: | | CrippleFight wrote: | | Sacrifice Teardrop Kami to untap Kiki-Jiki. |
In legacy. Teardrop kami? Someone please stop the madness...That means you R&D. |
hey its not my deck baby. I'm bringing iggy pop. |
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KillemallCFH
Joined: 01 Jul 2005 Posts: 2
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Enyeez wrote: | first of all, you should be shot for making a thread with that topic.
as I see it, and this is a guess only, since I havent seen it played.
flash out a hulk, obviously cant/wont pay the cost, so you sacrifice it, fetching 4 disciples, and 7 creatures (artifacts) with 0 toughness, that will die when the hulk-ability is resolved.
dealing 7x4 damage to opponent.
the karmic guide version is more tricky.
flash hulk,
sac hulk,
fetch:
Body Snatcher
Benevolent Bodyguard
Carion Feeder
- when snatcher comes into play, discard another hulk
sac snatcher to feeder for +1+1 counter
new hulk comes into play
sac for another +1+1 counter
get karmic guide
guide gets the hulk back,
sac hulk again for kiki-jiki, and feeder
kiki-jiki-copy a karmic guide, karmic guide ability goes on the stack, sac kiki-jiki, get an untapped kiki-jiki, and repeat.
kill with any amount of hasted karmic guides.
(I think) | That is no entirely correct. Doing this only requires 1 Hulk. You Flash in Hulk, get Body Snatcher, Carrion Feeder, and Benevolent Bodyguard. With Snatcher's CIP ability on the stack, you sacrifice it to Carrion Feeder to return the Hulk. Then you sac the Hulk to get Karmic Guide, then again for Kiki (you don't need another feeder here, but I suppose if you have two in the deck it couldn't hurt). From here, make infinite hasty Karmic Guides and swing FTW. |
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