Relentless Assault plus Nacatl War-Pride

Champ_Peel · Joined: 14 Apr 2006 Posts: 31

I think i am reading this right, the war pride puts tokens into play that are copies of it, tapped and attacking equal to the number of creatures defending player controls, they are removed at end of ture, so if you somehow attack again in the same turn such as relentless assault, all of the tokens should trigger in addition to the original, and you basically get a billion Cat Warriors, correct?

suprmilkchan · Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 37

not a billion cats, creatures your opponent controls x creatures your opponent controls + 1 cats

(duh)

Magx · Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 339

how can you think 1 billion cats ?!?!

kcaccidental · Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 13

Well, sort of. The tokens don't have haste, so you won't be able to attack with them the second time unless you give them haste somehow. (The first lot of tokens never actually 'attack' in the first place, they simply go from not existing to 'tapped and attacking'.

So you'll need Emblem of the Warmind, or Anger, or (for multiplayer fun) Mass Hysteria.

sc4rs · Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 392

If you have a way to give the tokens haste, an even more hilarious/degenerate combo is using Breath of Fury, because it keeps reattaching to cats, giving you infinite cats and infinite attack steps as long as they control at least one creature.

Flamancipatr · Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 24

To determine the number of War-Prides you have is dependent upon the number of times you've attacked and the number of creatures defending player controls.

x = number of Nacatl's
y = number of creatures defending player controls
z = number of times you've attacked

x = (1 + y)^z

(This holds true when you attack with a single War-Pride. Replace 1 with 2, 3, or 4 when you control more than a single War-Pride before you attack)

Say your opponent has 2 defending creatures, let's say they're both tapped. You attack with a Nacatl War-Pride and create two tokens. You now have 3 Nacatl War-Pride in play. Then let's use relentless assault and attack again. You have 3 War-Prides and each of them makes two copies, so then after the second attack you have 9 War-Prides. If you attack again, each 9 will make 2 copies, and then you have 27 War-Prides.

To get a billion, you either have to attack a heck of a lot of times or the defending player has to have a heck of a lot of goblins/saprolings.

But of course, this is all useless math if those tokens you create don't have haste. They come into play attacking, like ninjas, but it doesn't mean that if you get a 2nd combat phase that they can attack again.

LoneWulf · Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 148

ahhh to hell with all that. just have pandemonium in play. that should finish things up.

boomwolf · Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 59

have both...
now you can be sure you get at least on of them...

Champ_Peel · Joined: 14 Apr 2006 Posts: 31

hahaha, yeah i feel like a noob now, i forgot that you would have to give them haste or i was thinking that would be kind of a bomb of a play especially with the "pitch" relentless assault in coldsnap