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EatMe
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
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 Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:44 pm Post subject: Hulk flash sucks.... |
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// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)
// Lands
4 [TE] Wasteland
3 [B] Scrubland
2 [R] Underground Sea
4 [A] Tundra
4 [ON] Polluted Delta
4 [ON] Flooded Strand
// Creatures
4 [ON] True Believer
4 [PS] Meddling Mage
4 [UL] Mother of Runes
2 [ON] Exalted Angel
// Spells
4 [GP] Leyline of Singularity
3 [SC] Stifle
4 [MM] Brainstorm
4 [AL] Force of Will
2 [9E] Ivory Mask
4 [PS] Orim's Chant
4 [GP] Leyline of the Void
// Sideboard
SB: 2 [IA] Disenchant
SB: 4 [7E] Engineered Plague
SB: 4 [R] Swords to Plowshares
SB: 1 [SC] Stifle
SB: 4 [SC] Gilded Light
I played a few games with it I ended up not even playing hulk flash, but i played against affinity, UWr fish, and...Goblins(lol). Anyways it beat them and im pretty sure it could own some hulks...so plays it kkthxbai. |
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thedarkness
Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 487
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:44 am Post subject: |
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| See, this is what we call a "hate deck." You run 8 leylines and nothing that has any synergy with them just because they stop one deck. It damn well better beat Hulk, because it looks like that's all it CAN beat. |
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zero
Joined: 23 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:38 am Post subject: |
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| you deck has 0 sinergy. you deck sucks |
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Magx
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:54 am Post subject: |
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what did I say about Constructive Criticism ? 0 synergy doesn't explain anything....
both of you suck at commentaries |
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Laplie
League Staff
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
Posts: 547
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| thedarkness wrote: | | See, this is what we call a "hate deck." You run 8 leylines and nothing that has any synergy with them just because they stop one deck. It damn well better beat Hulk, because it looks like that's all it CAN beat. |
Not completely true. It looks like it beats a bunch of decks. Hulk flash obviously, but also iggy pop (which dies to the same hate as hulk), ichorid, solidarity, belcher (mask, true believer, and stifle help here), and probably most forms of mono red burn. After sb, I can see it having a decent matchup with goblins and a bunch of other aggro decks.
Its not that bad, don't let all the hate cards blind you. |
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Taoofss
Joined: 22 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:41 am Post subject: |
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| Magx wrote: | what did I say about Constructive Criticism ? 0 synergy doesn't explain anything....
both of you suck at commentaries |
who the fuck cares about what you said. suck my balls you guppy douche bad. That constructive enough for you cunt rag? |
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NahHolmes
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:08 am Post subject: |
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| There is no way you should have beaten URW Fish, Goblins, or Affinity with this deck. Are you sure your opponent knew what he was doing? Could have been a fluke, just don't expect to win against Gobs with this deck again when it counts. |
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thedarkness
Joined: 13 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Laplie, you had some valid points, but leyline of singularity makes any and all potential hosers worthless against combo. One meddling mage naming one card, and even if that is a key card that happens to hose that particular hand, a cov will rape that. Same goes for true believer, mother of runes, and leyline of the void.
The deck looks alright on paper, but there's no way it will actually have any effective game vs the top tiered decks of the format. Also, it lacks any real ways to get to the cards it needs for a specific matchup. It looks more like a bunch of decks than it looks like it beats a bunch of decks to me. You need to keep a deck focused. For those of you who think this too is not elaborate enough, let me explain.
A deck that runs an answer to everything and no way to tutor for any of it gets all the wrong cards 99.99% of the time. Sure this deck has the tools needed to beat all kinds of decks, but it runs one draw card and no tutors, which seems pretty damn weak to me. I mean, it barely even has enough blue to support Force of Will, and 8 leylines means you're already short on cards in hand before the game has even started.
-My two cents |
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TylerTMK
Joined: 11 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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| hope I get paired vs everyone playing a deck like this at Colombus |
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TNT_69
Joined: 07 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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yeah seriously this looks like complete crap but i wont judge until i see it in action  |
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prometheus
Joined: 27 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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The question you really have to answer is:
do I expect to see any decks other than hulk flash after round 3?
If yes, then you run too many narrow hate cards, even if they will win that match.
If no.... you're golden. |
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WoodSage
Joined: 08 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: Angel's Grace |
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As long as you're including hate, isn't Angel's Grace worthy of consideration?
I believe it's underrated, it + Gaea's Blessing should beat Solidarity, it can work as a last-resort Fog against aggro (Goblins), and it should beat the Hulk combos I'm seeing currently (maybe there are better or more resilient ones). while going through countermagic. |
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Spyx
Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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| except that angel's grace doesn't prevent life loss from disciples and therefore you still lose the game when he passes the turn to you.... |
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Noob3
Joined: 22 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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why not just play homebrew with leylines in the side? the deck already runs engineered plagues VS goblins, just name cleric! it can go firsturn leyline of the void, ritual, plague.
what now? then duress 'em!
I expect to see plenty of homebrew at the GP |
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NahHolmes
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Noob3 wrote: | why not just play homebrew with leylines in the side? the deck already runs engineered plagues VS goblins, just name cleric! it can go firsturn leyline of the void, ritual, plague.
what now? then duress 'em!
I expect to see plenty of homebrew at the GP |
Just so you know, with the way state based effects work the Flash into Disciple combo still works under Engeneered Plague during the Flash players turn meaning you still lose. The only thing it does is make it impossible for them to win during your turn, which really doesn't matter when you don't run counterspells. |
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