Dovescape and Eye of the Storm

PonyExpress · Joined: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 8

When you run through the copies of the spells RFG'd by Eye of the Storm, and Dovescape is out, would the copies be countered by Dovescape or are copies of a spell uncounterable?

onecleanceli · Joined: 27 Mar 2005 Posts: 244

with eye of the storm, whenever a player plays a spell, it gets removed from the game, then that player copies each spell RFG with Eye... it then says that player may 'play' each copy without paying its mana cost... the copies are still 'played' so they would be countered via dovescape.... im also assuming you mean if eye was out first, with a few spells under it already right? b/c after dovescape is out, anytime a spell is played period, it gets countered and not RFG via eye

Chaymon · Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 3

Dovescape says,

"Whenever a player plays a noncreature spell, counter that spell."

and Eye of the Storm says,

"For each copy, the player may play the copy without playing its mana cost."

so Dovescape will counter each of the copies created through eye of the storm.

sc4rs · Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 389

You'd definitely get the tokens from the other spells triggering off Eye of the Storm, but I'm not entirely sure how they would interact, considering both effects remove the spell from the stack. If you trigger Dovescape first, then Eye of the Storm, would the first spell generate you tokens because, by the time the Dovescape trigger resolves, the spell has been removed from the game (and, therefore, is no longer on the stack to be countered?) Likewise, if you stack it in the other order, then the spell will have already been countered by Dovescape to another zone, so would Eye of the Storm trigger if it can't remove the spell from the game?

A judge to answer these questions would be nice, and preferably not someone who's just blowing wind out of their...mouth.

SOAD · Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 226 Location: In my Comp

thats why I hate Eye of the Storm, i always get dizzy with that cardm it should be banned due to extreme rules text box

Chaymon · Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 3

If Dovescape is stacked first then like you say the card will no longer be on the stack by the time the Dovescape trigger resolves meaning no resolution of the ability and like wise the other way around if the Eye of the storm is stacked first, an ability already on the stack can have no effect on a card that has changed zones, it being a different card and all.

TD · Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 105

onecleanceli · Joined: 27 Mar 2005 Posts: 244

TD · Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 105