Handling your opponent's library.

Jorbes · Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 249 Location: Netherland

This poll is about how to handle cards like these:

"Search target opponent's library for a card and put..."

"Look at the top X cards of target opponent's library, you may... "

I came up with 3 ways to handle this and I need to choose one to implement in PGO, thus... a POLL Smile

a.) Give full control over each opponents library without having to ask for it.
Like, you would right click on opp's library and press the "browse" button or the "look at top X" button, no questions asked..

Fast, but this would allow for accidental cheating (misclick?)

b.) Same as a.) , but before actually seeing the cards, the owner of the library needs to confirm he/she will allow this action to happen.

Slower than a.) but much saver as far as cheating goes.

c.) Let the owner of the library "show" the proper amount of cards to the opponent.

This would create another button in the library popupmenu, one that will be hardly used also.
It would even have a submenu, to choose the right opp. when in multiplayer.

My personal choice would be b.)

This situation does not happen that often, so I dont feel like it should be a default button in the library popup menu.
The speed of b.) would still be OK, if the owner of the library is paying attention.

Your thoughts on this matter that has kept me awake for several nights Razz

(j/k)

Kuberr · Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 18

B Is obviously the right choice. Safety over Speed in my opinion.

Bozo · Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 100

C sounds like the cleanest implementation to me.

Tricen · Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 5

I would hate to clutter up the interface with more buttons. Giving the opponent the control and the owner the confirmation seems the simplest and safest route to take.

TD · Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 105

B; C would be fine as well. A is simply unacceptable; you should always try and make sure that misclicks don't cause problems like that would.

ant900 · Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 2474 Location: somewhere

why not just like appr? the owner is the only one that lets you open it but you can do what you want with it once they do

Malhavoc · Joined: 21 Sep 2004 Posts: 158 Location: Italy

B or C clearly. B is cleaner from an interface point of view, but your risk your opponent to annoy you always forcing your to answer "no" to continuous "spam" requests. Sure, in a league this would be a match loss, but outside of leagues it can be pretty annoying.

DS_McWerp · Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 78

C is what we have in MWS and APP. It works well enough. If you have a good enough reason to do something different, then do it, If not, go with what works.

Jorbes · Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 249 Location: Netherland

I've chosen to implement all 3, with B as the default option.

You only have 2 extra buttons in your library popup if you turn C on.

Users Choice, as usual

Thanks for voting though Razz

mTk-Away · Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 68

I would see the best option would be to combine the current systems (Appr & MWS). While it probably is a bad idea to be able to do anything with your opponent's library, there still should be some sort of limited access.

As far as I see it, unless your opponent shows you his/her library (or top X cards of it) there's nothing you can do with it. But after you are looking at the cards, you have total control over them.
This is mostly because Magic has lots of those "search your opponent's library for 3 cards" style cards that would really benefit from being able to touch the library... playing Bitter Ordeal is dang slow in MWS!

I don't think we need any kind of "comfirm opponent moving Island from Library to Graveyard" button or such. It should be ok if opponent has (total) control only over the cards they actuall see - or more like are shown.