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rg sligh



 
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do you think this deck is viable
yes
66%
 66%  [ 2 ]
no
33%
 33%  [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 3

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yehudi



Joined: 29 Dec 2005
Posts: 86

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: rg sligh Reply with quote

basicly i wante to play both ball lightning and groundbreaker and this is what it turned out as any comments/ thoughs on improvements and before every1 starts yelling troll asetic i know but this isnt a normal rg agro deck its a red green sligh deck

// Lands
4 [DM] Karplusan Forest
4 [ON] Wooded Foothills
1 [US] Forest (2)
4 [GP] Stomping Ground
2 [MR] Mountain (4)
1 [TSB] Pendelhaven
4 [B] Taiga

// Creatures
4 [R] Kird Ape
4 [PLC] Groundbreaker
4 [4E] Ball Lightning
4 [TO] Grim Lavamancer
4 [TE] Mogg Fanatic
4 [EX] Skyshroud Elite

// Spells
4 [UL] Rancor
4 [OV] Incinerate
4 [LG] Chain Lightning
4 [A] Lightning Bolt

// Sideboard
SB: 3 [SC] Pyrostatic Pillar
SB: 3 [DK] Blood Moon
SB: 4 [R] Red Elemental Blast
SB: 2 [SOK] Pithing Needle
SB: 3 [ON] Naturalize
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yavin1



Joined: 15 Jul 2006
Posts: 143

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you need more fetchlands. drop karpulsan forest for 2 windswept heat and 2 bloodstained mire. take out pendlehaven for another windswepth heath. also, price for progress should be in your SB. it looks like this deck can win turn 4-5 consistantly, so i think it is fairly decent
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NahHolmes



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 738

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really viable. Try something more like...
Zilla Stompy
// Mana
7 Forest
5 Mountain
4 Taiga
4 Wooded Foothills

// Creatures
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Elvish Spirit Guide
4 Kird Ape
4 Burning-Tree Shaman
4 Troll Ascetic
4 Iwamori of the Open Fist

// Spells
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Magma Jet
4 Rancor
4 Umezawa's Jitte

You really don't need that many non-basics either, you need threats that stick to the board. Also Mogg Fanatic>Ball Lightning and Goblins is a deck to beat.
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yehudi



Joined: 29 Dec 2005
Posts: 86

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yavin thanx ill try it out

nah holmes that list just looks so bad besides if you read the first line of text youll notice i said dot start yelling troll asetic and friends its not that kind a deck its a red green sligh deck
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yehudi



Joined: 29 Dec 2005
Posts: 86

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh and nahholmes for the record i have a similar list only yours doesnt realy look optimal to me this is the plain no frills rg list i play

// Lands
6 [B] Mountain (1)
6 [R] Forest (2)
4 [U] Taiga
4 [ON] Wooded Foothills

// Creatures
4 [MR] Troll Ascetic
4 [B] Llanowar Elves
4 [GP] Rumbling Slum
4 [AN] Kird Ape
4 [GP] Burning-Tree Shaman

// Spells
4 [A] Lightning Bolt
2 [DS] Sword of Fire and Ice
4 [UL] Rancor
3 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte
4 [LG] Chain Lightning
3 [OV] Incinerate

// Sideboard
SB: 3 [SOK] Pithing Needle
SB: 3 [DK] Tormod's Crypt
SB: 3 [9E] Blood Moon
SB: 3 [IA] Anarchy
SB: 3 [TSP] Krosan Grip
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NahHolmes



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 738

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yehudi wrote:
yavin thanx ill try it out

nah holmes that list just looks so bad besides if you read the first line of text youll notice i said dot start yelling troll asetic and friends its not that kind a deck its a red green sligh deck

Ball Lightning and Groudbreaker are very poor choices for a Legacy deck for many reasons. Go playtest both decks on MWS and see what works for you. Not saying the deck I posted is the best, but atleast it's viable.
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NahHolmes



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 738

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yehudi wrote:
oh and nahholmes for the record i have a similar list only yours doesnt realy look optimal to me this is the plain no frills rg list i play

// Lands
6 [B] Mountain (1)
6 [R] Forest (2)
4 [U] Taiga
4 [ON] Wooded Foothills

// Creatures
4 [MR] Troll Ascetic
4 [B] Llanowar Elves
4 [GP] Rumbling Slum
4 [AN] Kird Ape
4 [GP] Burning-Tree Shaman

// Spells
4 [A] Lightning Bolt
2 [DS] Sword of Fire and Ice
4 [UL] Rancor
3 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte
4 [LG] Chain Lightning
3 [OV] Incinerate

// Sideboard
SB: 3 [SOK] Pithing Needle
SB: 3 [DK] Tormod's Crypt
SB: 3 [9E] Blood Moon
SB: 3 [IA] Anarchy
SB: 3 [TSP] Krosan Grip

Magma Jet is really good in this deck, try it over Chain Lightning seriously scry is sooo good.
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yavin1



Joined: 15 Jul 2006
Posts: 143

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

he is right, scry is like deck munipulation and allows for ure opitmal draw, id definatly run a playset of them. either cut chain lightning or incinerate or a combination, id go with cuting incinerate personally tho
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yavin1



Joined: 15 Jul 2006
Posts: 143

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cranemaker21 wrote:
BESERK!!!!!!!!!!! That card is like the only reason i would ever play your deck so please play it


i could be wrong but i think beserk is illegal in legacy. otherwise, play it for sure.
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NahHolmes



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 738

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yavin1 wrote:
Cranemaker21 wrote:
BESERK!!!!!!!!!!! That card is like the only reason i would ever play your deck so please play it


i could be wrong but i think beserk is illegal in legacy. otherwise, play it for sure.

When 1.5 became Legacy, Berserk became legal and the value of my Berserks doubled, bwahahah.
Yes Berserk is legal.
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kfcman



Joined: 16 Sep 2006
Posts: 733

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

id b playin at least 8 fetchlands in any 2 color deck
possibly a couple more
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yehudi



Joined: 29 Dec 2005
Posts: 86

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the latesed update of rg sligh:

// Lands
4 [ON] Wooded Foothills
1 [US] Forest (2)
4 [GP] Stomping Ground
2 [MR] Mountain (4)
1 [TSB] Pendelhaven
4 [B] Taiga
2 [ON] Windswept Heath
2 [ON] Bloodstained Mire

// Creatures
4 [R] Kird Ape
4 [PLC] Groundbreaker
4 [4E] Ball Lightning
4 [TE] Mogg Fanatic
4 [EX] Skyshroud Elite
4 [GP] Scab-Clan Mauler

// Spells
4 [LG] Chain Lightning
4 [A] Lightning Bolt
4 [FD] Magma Jet
4 [TE] Cursed Scroll

// Sideboard
SB: 3 [SC] Pyrostatic Pillar
SB: 2 [DK] Blood Moon
SB: 2 [SOK] Pithing Needle
SB: 3 [TSP] Krosan Grip
SB: 3 [OV] Pyroclasm
SB: 2 [PLC] Seal of Primordium


after testing it alot and having lost a few times vs dificult matchups like : goblins/any deck running chalice of teh void or counterbalance top i made a few modifications
i cut the lavamancer cause he usualy died before i could or wanted to use him he was more often then not a dead draw
soi chaned them out for 4 scabclan maulers next i cut the rancor in favor of cursed scrolls cause in the deck rancor was esentialy a win more card besides turn 1 cursed scroll vs controll pwns .
next i took outthe incinerates and swapped dose with 4 magma jets (thx for the tip nahholmesand yavin ) scry is so good
next i took out the4 karplusan forests for 4 extra fetch so i would flood less often and do some deckthing atthe same time
after these chainges to the main deck to improve that i need to do something to fixthe bad matchups in the format
like i said befor bad matchups are anything that runs chalice of the void, counterbalance -top, goblins,im not gonna discust the combo matchup cause every1 nows that thats just a race and pillar helps k vs the counterbalance/top dwecs and the chalice i added 3 krosan grips and 2 seal of primordium next came the goblin matchup in witchi had trouble handeling the explosiveness of them in the late game so i added 4 pyroclasms to the main figuring that i now actualy only run 1 creature that is somewhat vonurable to it i will continue to test and tinker around with the deck so ill keep you all informed
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